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Amazon Atlas: The “Highly Confidential” locations of Amazon's data centers

147 pointsby jolesfover 6 years ago

26 comments

morpheuskafkaover 6 years ago
How come WikiLeaks is distributing this? I don&#x27;t see any meaningful connection to government transparency or even corporate transparency... this has nothing to do with abuse of power, it is completely normal and rightful for a company to keep its infrastructure locations secret. Some of this could be found through public records, etc. and that fine to post, but internal operating procedures are not.<p>Sure, it&#x27;s fun to look at. But the only people who will really benefit from this being leaked are AWS competitors and malicious actors intending to disrupt international communications.
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TomK32over 6 years ago
&quot;Top 10 most boring building in the most boring part of town with no food truck for miles.&quot;<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theatlantic.com&#x2F;technology&#x2F;archive&#x2F;2016&#x2F;01&#x2F;amazon-web-services-data-center&#x2F;423147&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theatlantic.com&#x2F;technology&#x2F;archive&#x2F;2016&#x2F;01&#x2F;amazo...</a><p>Seriously, besides the DoD contract angle, what&#x27;s the point in publishing this data?
neurobashingover 6 years ago
As a resident of Ashburn, VA the locations are hardly a secret. Just about everyone in the area who cares to know, knows. I drive past the place in the header image of <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theatlantic.com&#x2F;technology&#x2F;archive&#x2F;2016&#x2F;01&#x2F;amazon-web-services-data-center&#x2F;423147&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theatlantic.com&#x2F;technology&#x2F;archive&#x2F;2016&#x2F;01&#x2F;amazo...</a> on the way home from the Sterling Wal-Mart. My next door neighbor is an HVAC tech for Amazon, and he&#x27;s only barely secretive about where they are (to me anyway). Everyone at Old Ox and Crooked Run breweries seems to know, etc.
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mtmailover 6 years ago
The address in Palo Alto is right off University Avenue behind the Walgreens. The one in Luxembourg is an office building as well. I don&#x27;t see much value unless one wants to destabilize internet infrastructure.
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ubersoldat2k7over 6 years ago
Great! Now I&#x27;ll know where to go when I need to restart my EC2 instance.
amatechaover 6 years ago
The timing on the release of this information is very _interesting_, considering:<p>&quot;Currently, Amazon is one of the leading contenders for an up to $10 billion contract to build a private cloud for the Department of Defense. [...] Bids on this contract are due tomorrow.&quot;
bogomipzover 6 years ago
&gt;&quot;In some cases, Amazon uses pseudonyms to obscure its presence. For example, at its IAD77 data center, the document states that “Amazon is known as ‘Vandalay Industries’ on badges and all correspondence with building manager”.&quot;<p>This made me laugh. Vandalay Industries is a reference to a very funny Seinfeld episode. Someone at AWS has a good sense of humor:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;seinfeld.wikia.com&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Vandelay_Industries" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;seinfeld.wikia.com&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Vandelay_Industries</a>
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hkaiover 6 years ago
Seems to be outdated. One of the folks named in the document as responsible for a China site is not working for Amazon since a few years ago and is now at Google Cloud, according to his linkedin.
N0RMANover 6 years ago
Again you can clearly see WikiLeaka mission: Randomly attacking and potentially damaging businesse.
hacknatover 6 years ago
Their justification for releasing this is crap.
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have_faithover 6 years ago
Like others, I&#x27;m confused to the reasoning of the leak. What public good does it promote? What can anyone do with this information that is productive?
Akinatoover 6 years ago
I agree with many of the others. I don&#x27;t see how this information could be useful for anything except someone with malicious intent.
mikehotelover 6 years ago
The leaked document is from October 2015.<p>It’s missing new regions in Ohio, Mumbai, Seoul, Canada, Paris, and GovCloud.
mvanbaakover 6 years ago
This release shows how desperate wikileaks is. Very old and outdated data that is far from secret. We should all simply ignore them nowedays, thank them for what they did in the past and tell them to move on. The only reason I see why they published is: get some new media attention because tomorrow they might get a contract with Y who we dont like blabla.
booleandilemmaover 6 years ago
Wikileaks, if you leak <i>everything</i> indiscriminately like this you’re like that gossipy person no one likes or trusts.
romedover 6 years ago
The most shocking thing in this release is that amazon internally uses Twiki. Happy hacking, black hats!
kylegordonover 6 years ago
The metadata of the PDF doesn&#x27;t seem to include a date, but it&#x27;s not particularly new. It doesn&#x27;t have the London or Paris availability zones listed.
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juscallmericoover 6 years ago
..geo-awareness fail? or faith in bombing range containment?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;HcVFJ0K" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;HcVFJ0K</a>
Upvoter33over 6 years ago
Amazon competitors, like Google and Microsoft, already study these things through their mapping products. &lt;yawn&gt;
amaiover 6 years ago
Interesting. A company which wants my real name as a customer is using fake company names to hide away.
erentzover 6 years ago
This looks old. It doesn’t include their Columbus data centers for example.
ape4over 6 years ago
Would it be possible to find the general location by checking ping times?
expathackerover 6 years ago
Not the most exciting, or revealing of leaks. Less interesting, then, say, their leaks of Turkish dessert recipes[0]. Great attempt at clickbait though!<p>Compare the locations with <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.internetexchangemap.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.internetexchangemap.com&#x2F;</a> and you&#x27;ll see that most of these are just the natural locations for datacenters. Most of these locations are within a few kilometers, sometimes within a few hundred meters, of other commercial datacenters.<p>They generally fall within: Close to major population and finance centers with affordable power, abundant fiber, and local&#x2F;state governments willing to give subsidies... like every other datacenter.<p>0. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;zeynep&#x2F;status&#x2F;757649656650297345" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;zeynep&#x2F;status&#x2F;757649656650297345</a>
ucaetanoover 6 years ago
A lot of the locations look more like POPs, not data centers. The multiple in Brazil are just coloc and meet-me sites run by local companies (UOL, Algar, TIVIT).<p>What a shitty service, WikiLeaks...
patrickg_zillover 6 years ago
This in no way harms Amazon in terms of security, though it may have a PR implication or possibly allow others to take Amazon to task in some way.<p>Security by obscurity cannot be relied upon.
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azinman2over 6 years ago
I’ve lost all respect for Wikileaks. How about actually leaking documents on day, I dunno, how the Chinese government is trying to brainwash Uighurs and erase their culture and religion? Instead, it’s always the US that’s been the bad guy, and now it’s not even really the government directly. There’s no cultural suppression or a larger public benefit from knowing where amazon data centers are located.<p>What a joke.
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