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Next-Gen Mazda2 Will Return 70 MPG, Without An Electric Motor

19 pointsby coreyrecvloheover 14 years ago

4 comments

simonsarrisover 14 years ago
No it won't.<p>The 70mpg figure is from the Japanese test.<p><i>The Mazda release said the car would achieve 70 miles per gallon, but that number was based on the Japanese test cycle, meaning American mileage would be lower. A 15 percent increase from the existing Mazda 2 would result in a combined 37 m.p.g. (For comparison, the Toyota Prius, which gets a combined 50 m.p.g. from the Environmental Protection Agency, achieves 89 m.p.g. in the Japanese test.)</i><p>More accurate article here:<p><a href="http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/21/mazda-next-generation-mazda-2-will-get-70-m-p-g/" rel="nofollow">http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/21/mazda-next-genera...</a>
Constructover 14 years ago
With a compression ratio of 14:1, it will be interesting to see if this car requires 91+ Octane (Premium Unleaded). Higher compression ratios are a great way of squeezing more power out of the same amount of gasoline, but raising the compression ratio also raises the risk of detonation.<p>Detonation occurs when the pressure and temperature inside the cylinder cause the air-fuel mixture to literally detonate, rather than burn (relatively) slowly and evenly as desired. If this occurs before the spark, it is called pre-ignition. When it occurs after the spark, while the flame front is progressing through the cylinder, it is referred to as detonation. Higher octane fuels are more resistant to detonation and pre-ignition, and usually go hand-in-hand with higher compression ratios.<p>As a side note, E85 Ethanol has a ridiculously high octane rating, among other things, which allows for higher compression ratios and much higher boost in forced-induction engines. I keep hoping E85 will catch on outside of the corn belt so I can effectively get race gas performance from pump gas in my turbocharged motor, but no such luck yet.<p>There are plenty of tricks that can be played to reduce the risk of detonation using low-octane fuels in high compression motors. Efficient head design with excellent cooling will reduce cylinder temperatures and minimize hot spotting within the cylinder head, reducing the risks of detonation and pre-ignition. Getting the heat out of the valves is particularly challenging as they only meet the cylinder head in a relatively small contact patch. The valves can be filled with sodium, which turns to liquid as the motor reaches operating temperature and circulates within the valve, cooling the valve and further reduce hot spots (pre-ignition points) within the motor. Also, designing the piston and head to thoroughly mix and swirl the intake charge helps create a quick, even, clean burn.<p>However, to get up to 14:1 on a production motor, I wonder if Mazda is playing serious games with the intake camshaft timing to reduce the effective compression ratio. If you leave the intake valves open long enough after the piston begins the compression stroke, it will actually push a tiny amount of air back out of the intake valves, reducing the effective compression ratio of the motor at top dead center. With variable valve timing, Mazda could just be doing this near full load, where detonation and pre-ignition are problems. At partial load, you can get away with much higher compression ratios (up to 20:1 in certain cases, IIRC) with associated increases in efficiency (and thus higher MPG).<p>Either way, I'm glad to see more efficient internal combustion engines. The internal combustion engine is a 100+ year old technology, so significant improvements are hard to come by without drastically increasing the cost of the motor. Good stuff.
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cullenkingover 14 years ago
People still won't buy it unless it is decent sized and powerful. The same reasons why VW didn't bring in the 1 liter turbo diesel that got something like 100mpg. The fuel has been available since 2007, there just isn't much market yet. Drive fuel prices sky high again and maybe...
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JofArnoldover 14 years ago
As I often say "My 7 year old Rover 25 diesel gets actual 50mpg with 115hp (0-60 approx 9s)... And the wreck only cost me $1500 (£1000 in UK)".<p>I've a career in Mech/Auto Eng, so I know it's more complicated than that. Nonetheless, it shows how the car industry can confuse with these headline figures.<p>I will add that I'd probably rather breathe the exhaust of my Rover (with micron-scale smoke particles) than that of a modern car (with more biologically-active nano-scale particles)
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