> "We don't get enough sleep, and we are not going to "change our ways" because there are already too few hours in most people's days to do things they enjoy. Call it a sad fact of life because that's what it is"<p>This honestly is spot on the way I think about it - I can sleep early, but who benefits from my day to day learning as an adult? My employer maybe? Me in some minor long term ways?<p>Or I can stay up and do things I enjoy, wake myself up with an alarm every day and consume enough caffeine to bridge the gap. This way, I get more enjoyment out of my life in a very direct and measurable way.<p>If 5-6 hours of sleep a night is enough to get paid, I'm not going to make a sacrifice that will cost me personally.
If you get a 403 error (as I do), here's the latest web archive capture: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20181017190008/https://www.supermemo.com/en/articles/sleep" rel="nofollow">https://web.archive.org/web/20181017190008/https://www.super...</a>
I'm lucky enough that I haven't cut on my sleep much during my adolescence or my college studies. Today I feel awful every time I sleep less than 7 hours, and moderately dysfunctional if I don't sleep 8 a few days in a row.<p>By "awful" I mean that I just think slower. It's like playing a game with lag, not fun. I wonder if/how many people who claim they can sleep 6 hours a day and feel fine have just gotten so used to the lag that they don't notice it anymore.<p>Only thing I'm afraid of is children...
I just completely broke my sleep. I was in Hong Kong, then Mountain Standard Time and then back to Eastern. My doctor prescribed Zopiclone, so I used it the first couple of nights when I returned. For the first time in my adult life, I have been sleeping 8.5 hours a night. I was usually awake after 6 hours. Occasionally I could get 7.5 but generally with an interruption.
It is going to take some time to get used to and I hope it lasts, but it feels great to make progress reading books on dry subjects on a weeknight or just being alert in the afternoon.<p>We have so much to learn about the body and sleep.
I fast and maintain a ketogenic diet. Its 5:45am as Im typing this. Ive been up since 4. Went to bed at 11. Currently on hour 35 of a fast that I plan to end mid morning. Unless I still feel "great"...<p>I have high mental clarity currently. I had high mental clarity when I went to sleep. I did have issues sleeping, but this is nothing new on a ketogenic and fasting state.<p>From the vast research I've done, sleeping may be more important on a high-insulin-fluctuating diet. However, when the body and brain are fat adapted (less insulin), there is a constant fuel source. The brain operates very efficiently on ketones. Also, important to note that when fasting and doing keto, you must supplement electrolytes.<p>There is a lot more to all of this and the notion behind the importance of sleep. Anecdotally, diet proves to be more important for me. Do your own research.<p>related:
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I found a 2017 update version of this article.<p><a href="http://super-memory.com/articles/sleep.htm" rel="nofollow">http://super-memory.com/articles/sleep.htm</a>
The arrogance in this thread is incredible. Legions of people pointing to pop science books and talking about how horrible their life would be if they weren't getting their 8 hours. Phrases like "have some respect for yourself" and "you're not getting the most out of life".<p>Do what works for you, but do remember that your life is just another anecdote. Stop telling others how to live their lives.<p>I stay up way too late all the time. My sleep is irregular. I rarely get as much sleep as I would if I went to bed at 10pm every night. And yet I'm extremely healthy, I pop out of bed every morning, and I'm always in a good mood. I don't get colds, I don't have memory problems... I don't have any of the horrible effects you all are <i>sure</i> I must have because your book says I must.
Does anybody else split their sleep into two periods? I've done this out of necessity at several points in my life, first more than 20 years ago when I worked at a job that required me to get up at 3 in the morning and then more recently when I find I do my best work at night (last night, for instance, working at 1 am) but have to get up at 6:30 to help my kids get ready for school. I work from home and can set my own schedule, so I can go back to sleep for a few hours in the mid morning but I am not sure if this is optimal in terms of getting enough sleep or the "right" kind of sleep.
At the risk of starting a conversation that's more about general insomnia and tangential to the article, has anyone dealt with early morning insomnia? This article doesn't seem to mention it, but I'm wondering if resetting one's circadian rhythms will help.
<i>"We don't get enough sleep, and we are not going to "change our ways" because there are already too few hours in most people's days to do things they enjoy"</i><p>Speak for yourself.<p>In sleep about 9h a day.
What are some good options for tracking your sleep quality(deep sleep etc)?<p>Sleep clinic would be the most precise but personally I think it induces its own bias as we sleep best in our own beds. Hopefully we sleep in our own beds most of the time.<p>So what consumer choices are there?<p>Apple Watch is what I read in this thread but any other fitness trackers/phones with reasonable accuracy ?<p>I am very doubtful of just a phone app accuracy without some on body sensors.
I've been having trouble getting the page to load. I noticed I'm not alone. Anyone care to speculate on why and how I can avoid this on my sites in the future? I'm guessing someone in devops or sysadmin or with experience would have a good guess
The article link gives a 403 error. Any other link?<p>Edit: <a href="http://super-memory.com/articles/sleep.htm" rel="nofollow">http://super-memory.com/articles/sleep.htm</a> this seems to be the same article.
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