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Why aren't we all using Japanese toilets?

18 pointsby arikrover 6 years ago

9 comments

shalmaneseover 6 years ago
It's a path dependancy issue. Japanese bathrooms are constructed with power to the toilet so that washlet conversion is easy. American bathrooms don't have power to the toilet so its either a feature specifically requested by the homebuilder or an aftermarket mod. Its no longer a plug & play consumer product so it makes it hard to merchandise and then the chicken & egg effect takes over.
piercebotover 6 years ago
The prices quoted in this article are significantly higher than what I paid.<p>The Toto c100 washlet, which I installed in May 2017, currently runs for less than $360 on amazon [0]. And, despite the fact that I live in the suburbs of Washington DC (a notoriously expensive place to live), I had a licensed electrician do a next-day install of a GFI outlet in my bathroom for $150.<p>Installing the washlet was easy, and I had the requisite tools, so I did it myself.<p>I ended up spending just over $500 in total, which is less than the minimum quoted by the article. I agree with the author&#x27;s points though on the quality of life improvements one receives from having a washlet!<p>0: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;dp&#x2F;B00UCIOWRM&#x2F;ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_xsT4BbT8G2SC9" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;dp&#x2F;B00UCIOWRM&#x2F;ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_xs...</a>
Glennrossover 6 years ago
I want to first point out that the PR article linked is a years-old advertisement trying to convince anglophones to buy $600 washlets.<p>But more than just point out its commercial intent, I want to discuss a little about the topic of why Japan has washlets.<p>A washlet is a combination of a toilet and a bidet -- sometimes with other added features, but this is the core of it. Japan, specially overpopulated urban Japan, has a lack of living space. Given how cramped the apartments and houses in, for example, Tokyo can be, it makes sense to combine a toilet and a bidet to save space.<p>In Japan, it&#x27;s sometimes cheaper to buy a $600 toilet + bidet combo than to pay for the extra space to install a separate bidet. Or sometimes the bathroom is so tiny that they have no other choice.<p>The US and Europe generally doesn&#x27;t have this problem. That&#x27;s why we&#x27;re not all using washlets. Because we can just install a separate toilet and bidet for a cheaper price.<p>And if you want a heated seat, you can get a toilet with that for much cheaper than a $600 washlet.
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twblalockover 6 years ago
The bidet is fine; it&#x27;s a little weird for those of us who aren&#x27;t used to it. The best feature of Japanese toilets is the heated seat. Your butt will never be cold again.
everybodyknowsover 6 years ago
HN discussion of same link, six years ago:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=4784772" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=4784772</a>
RickJWagnerover 6 years ago
It sounds good and all, but I&#x27;m a little doubtful.<p>Can someone with real-world experience reassure me that a bidet actually cleans.... uh, &#x27;stubborn&#x27; refuse as well as paper?
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senectus1over 6 years ago
Why dont they have some sort of diagram or picture showing what a Japanese toilet is?<p>I mean I get that its a kind of Bidet but what makes it a &quot;Japanese&quot; toilet in particular?
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gaspoweredcatover 6 years ago
i have no idea, while i never got on with the whole bidet thing i do think that heated seats should be a basic human right! when you first get there youll likely find them a bit weird but by the time you leave you have begun to actively hate the idea of an unheated seat
el_don_almightyover 6 years ago
GET ONE! Your whole life will be changed These things are awesome