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Surveillance Kills Freedom by Killing Experimentation

279 pointsby humanetechover 6 years ago

11 comments

oedmarapover 6 years ago
The generalization and broadening of scope of such laws is one of the most troubling agendas&#x2F;trends of the surveillance state.<p>From what I&#x27;ve observed, countries are only more and more eager to adopt intelligence gathering methodology in a collective manner (<i>à la</i> Five Eyes). I&#x27;ll quote Atlas Shrugged for this one:<p>&gt; There&#x27;s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren&#x27;t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What&#x27;s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted—and you create a nation of law-breakers—and then you cash in on guilt.
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vbuwivbiuover 6 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.psychologytoday.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;blog&#x2F;animal-emotions&#x2F;201602&#x2F;ravens-know-theyre-being-watched-bird-brain-theory-mind" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.psychologytoday.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;blog&#x2F;animal-emotions&#x2F;2016...</a><p>People (and ravens) cannot help but act differently when they&#x27;re being watched. Being watched (by anonymous viewers) is a stressful vigilance state.
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djacobsover 6 years ago
This is the way we should be talking about privacy. Using vivid examples that are relevant to everyday people’s lives on both sides of the political divide. Avoiding broad, philosophical-sounding proclamations.<p>I hope people on HN are taking note.
_mu_over 6 years ago
As a librarian at a large university library I feel this.<p>I&#x27;m uncomfortable poking too much around in scihub. Even though it&#x27;s not something a national security agency would care about (I hope). Could any connection between papers from scihub and myself, be a huge issue both with my career and potentially for my institutions position when negotiating licenses. It might be paranoid, but there are so many possible ways to be compromised, that I choose to direct attention elsewhere.<p>I find it sad that I&#x27;m afraid to inquire on one of the most important developments in scholarly dissemination in resent years. I&#x27;m a research librarian for Price&#x27;s sake.
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pmarreckover 6 years ago
Also ever relevant are Martin Fowler’s thoughts on the matter of privacy or lack thereof<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;martinfowler.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;bothersome-privacy.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;martinfowler.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;bothersome-privacy.html</a>
moretaiover 6 years ago
It&#x27;s odd that people welcome it. I&#x27;ve had a person tell me that he doesn&#x27;t mind being watched because it helps catch terrorism and crimes and such.
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mar77iover 6 years ago
Interesting to see hard-learned lessons in software development generalized into the rest of life so neatly.<p>&gt; We can’t really justify all our decisions, many them are hunches, many of them are wrong.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mikehadlow.blogspot.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;06&#x2F;heisenberg-developers.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mikehadlow.blogspot.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;06&#x2F;heisenberg-developer...</a>
zzo38computerover 6 years ago
Certainly there is too much surveillance which not only prevent your freedom but also waste too much energy.
tatrajimover 6 years ago
In China now the goal is the make surveillance omnipresent. Already in premier universities, including Peking University, classroom lectures are routinely surveilled to monitor inappropriate discourse.
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hazeiiover 6 years ago
Not a new result, but should be more widely known and understood.<p>An argument easily extended to running an adblocker suggests you&#x27;d going to be more creative and productive because there are fewer eyes watching you.
_Schizotypyover 6 years ago
People on MySpace censored themselves after 9&#x2F;11? I didn&#x27;t know middle and high schoolers were so politically aware.
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