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Ask HN: Are web/marketing agencies inherently difficult to scale?

3 pointsby ccajasover 6 years ago
I&#x27;ve worked for two agencies but have much more experience with one than the other (4 years vs a couple of months). I want to know if this is the typical life cycle of a web marketing agency that is largely B2B to small-medium businesses.<p>I saw their company in two different &quot;stages&quot; of its life when I&#x27;ve worked for them. First as a junior contract developer making about half of local median pay (the contract mentioned a shift to full-time with higher pay but never followed through on that). In my first time working there, the business was being run from another company&#x27;s sublet rooms. Structure was &quot;top heavy&quot; over 50% being management that delegated tasks to off-shore teams. Being a local dev in the company was a rarity.<p>Two years have passed, at some point I was seeking work and decided to go back to my old company since the founder was interested in having me do consulting work for them. I was paid just slightly more than my time as a junior dev, and usually put projects that had clients that didn&#x27;t interact with the other employees beside myself and the PM. It was very silo&#x27;d in. Pretty much, do the work that their regular employees don&#x27;t have time for.<p>During this time they had already moved into their own dedicated office. There are still a lot of kinks in the armor but at least things feel more organized in the company. Local dev team is still barebones with the management largely directing off-shore workers. And then I started thinking, if this is 3 years of growth I wonder what is the next step to take this business to the next level.<p>Do agencies form some proprietary tech that make them attractive for large co&#x27;s to pick it up and buy them? Is that a general case? I am not thinking of starting a business, but I don&#x27;t see if there&#x27;s, if any, way to properly scale up to a national level. Is the agency model just inherently restricted to scaling? Could they expand their vision and scale up?

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PaulHouleover 6 years ago
I don&#x27;t know if a web agency is hard to scale but there is no benefit to the agency or the customers in doing so.<p>Long ago, I worked for a failing agency which had once been the largest in town and the founder was convinced the problem was price competition from individuals who didn&#x27;t have to pay for the overhead of a secretary, sales staff, health insurance, etc. I think the problem might have been more was that was intimidated by price competition and would lowball quotes for jobs such that we made a small profit on 4 out of 5 jobs and gave it back and then some on the last job which we quoted too low.<p>If you are successful your salespeople and devs will realize they can make more money working on their own account (after all you&#x27;ve busted your ass for years and thing you deserve the money instead of them.) Then they leave, you have to hire new people who are less experienced, and you&#x27;ve got more competitors to deal with.<p>Another issue is that the technology base of an agency inevitable erodes.<p>That firm was early to the web and used a rather unusual language with a &quot;visual programming&quot; interface for making web pages. It was way ahead of its time in 1997 the same way Cold Fusion was and was an advantage for them at the time.<p>They got the beat down from an up and coming company that was using mainly Ruby on Rails. (Actually I walked out of the first company and got a job at the second two days later)<p>A few years later that Ruby shop was heading for the tubes and everybody was struggling to retool to make single page applications.<p>Ten years from now the &quot;Google Platform&quot; will be a ghost town and the next thing will be Gopher++ or something.
bhartzerover 6 years ago
It comes down to management. Management needs to understand how SEO&#x2F;Marketing&#x2F;Digital Marketing works and they need to know how to scale it properly. It takes a lot of internal training and knowledge of that industry. There are a lot of meaningless tasks that digital marketing companies do that aren&#x27;t moving the needle for clients.<p>I&#x27;d look at client retention rates, as well. A good agency should have high client retention rates. If they&#x27;re just bringing in new clients for a few months and then the client leaves, then there&#x27;s something seriously wrong.