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Gatwick drones: Two arrested over flight disruption

188 pointsby lakisover 6 years ago

17 comments

sytelusover 6 years ago
Interesting bits...<p><i>One piece of equipment believed to have been deployed at the airport is the Israeli-developed Drone Dome system, which can detect drones using radar. It can also jam communications between the drone and its operator, enabling authorities to take control of and land the drone.</i><p><i>In a move known as &quot;buzzing the tower&quot;, it emerged the perpetrator had taunted airport staff by circling the drone around the building and flashing its lights</i><p><i>A detailed description of the drone, provided by witnesses, meant experts were able to determine the make and model of the machine, which is only available from a handful of locations in the UK.</i><p><i>Police and military experts were deployed to search for the operators of the drones, which reappeared near the airport every time the authorities tried to reopen the runways.</i><p>TLDR; There are no sure fire way to track down offender and police mainly relied on informants and traditional detective work of identifying drone and who might have purchased it.<p>Better coverage is here:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.telegraph.co.uk&#x2F;news&#x2F;2018&#x2F;12&#x2F;22&#x2F;gatwick-airport-drone-chaos-man-woman-arrested-passengers-brace&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.telegraph.co.uk&#x2F;news&#x2F;2018&#x2F;12&#x2F;22&#x2F;gatwick-airport-...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;uk-news&#x2F;2018&#x2F;dec&#x2F;22&#x2F;gatwick-drone-arrests-two-people-held-over-disruption-of-airport" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;uk-news&#x2F;2018&#x2F;dec&#x2F;22&#x2F;gatwick-dron...</a>
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FlowNoteover 6 years ago
Given the shockingly naive comments about drone disabling being proposed, I&#x27;m going to assume only a very tiny handful of people who visit this site has ever flown or seen a drone before. Let&#x27;s cure some of this naivety:<p>- GPS jamming doesn&#x27;t jam video feed.<p>- Wifi and radio jamming doesn&#x27;t stop landmark-driven&#x2F;return-to-home navigation.<p>- UK refusal to fire on the craft is absurd because rubber bullets, simunitions, and less-than-lethal rounds are more than capable of destabilizing the hull and structure of the craft... while inflicting no damage on distant landed craft or personnel. (I wouldn&#x27;t expect HN to know this, tbh)<p>-Sending piles of off-the-shelf consumer drones up to ram into it would have been sufficient as well.<p>Because of those last two points, the bumbling incompetence of UK security forces suggests to me that this event is purely pretext for even more rigid anti-drone legislation in a country that already has extreme anti-drone legislation. If true, then the question is, &quot;What has changed that has made Airstrip One suddenly paranoid about drones?&quot;
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dgellowover 6 years ago
Seems to be a very cheap (and relatively safe) way to cause a lot of financial damage. I wonder if we will see more of such events coming from activist or foreign agents trying to destabilize a system.
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philip1209over 6 years ago
Hello from Gatwick airport. Arrived Wednesday evening. About to board my third scheduled flight. I hope it doesn&#x27;t get cancelled again!<p>As an American, the British response to this seems very restrained. If this incident happened in the USA, I would have expected tight, armed security everywhere in the airport. Gatwick just seems like business as usual.
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olivermarksover 6 years ago
I wonder if Gatwick used their Aeyreon Skyranger drones to track the drones <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.guildford-dragon.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;04&#x2F;08&#x2F;49799&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.guildford-dragon.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;04&#x2F;08&#x2F;49799&#x2F;</a> Odd that there has been no news footage of the offending drones, you&#x27;d think they would be very visible...
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m0zgover 6 years ago
Can&#x27;t help but wonder, what was the goal? What were they hoping to achieve with it, and how did they expect to get away?
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singularity2001over 6 years ago
it would probably take too long to fly in the drone catching eagle:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=b5DEg2qZzkU" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=b5DEg2qZzkU</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;02&#x2F;01&#x2F;watch-this-trained-eagle-take-down-a-flying-drone&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;02&#x2F;01&#x2F;watch-this-trained-eagle-t...</a>
i_am_proteusover 6 years ago
I&#x27;m not saying this would have worked at Gatwick because I was not on the ground there, but GPS can be &quot;spoofed&quot; locally for specific vehicles.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.engr.utexas.edu&#x2F;features&#x2F;humphreysspoofing" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.engr.utexas.edu&#x2F;features&#x2F;humphreysspoofing</a>
tyingqover 6 years ago
I wonder if you could train kamakazi birds with a tangling net trailing behind them.
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dharma1over 6 years ago
So which drone was it? 3D Robotics?
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josefrescoover 6 years ago
Surprised they didn&#x27;t bust out the Eagle Anti-Drone system: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.popsci.com&#x2F;dutch-anti-drone-police-eagles-ready-for-duty" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.popsci.com&#x2F;dutch-anti-drone-police-eagles-ready-...</a><p>Yes ... Eagles as in the bird.w<p>Obligatory: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xkcd.com&#x2F;1842&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xkcd.com&#x2F;1842&#x2F;</a>
buboardover 6 years ago
couldn&#x27;t they just shoot them down?
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abledonover 6 years ago
how would they track who flew the drones? I guess UK camera network is paying off?
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rurbanover 6 years ago
Reminds me on the current Icelandic movie &quot;Woman at war&quot;, out now in the cinemas. Maybe it&#x27;s related.
seddinover 6 years ago
Was this the guy that posted the image on Reddit ?
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baybal2over 6 years ago
<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.legislation.gov.uk&#x2F;uksi&#x2F;2018&#x2F;623&#x2F;made" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.legislation.gov.uk&#x2F;uksi&#x2F;2018&#x2F;623&#x2F;made</a>
baybal2over 6 years ago
In UK, nobody can legally fly an RC plane without a permission of nobody other than a Chief of Defence Staff himself...<p>Yet, all and everybody who fly drones recreationally don&#x27;y even know of the regulation.<p>&gt; Prior to apply for operation approval via Form CAA&#x2F;AS&#x2F;017, you are required to obtain the Security Clearance from the Office of the Chief of Defence Staff (OCDS) for the Operation of the Drone using below Fax or e-mail.
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