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China lands Chang'e-4 on far side of Moon

1040 pointsby docbrownover 6 years ago

23 comments

arduanikaover 6 years ago
&quot;...and if the dam breaks open many years too soon...&quot;<p>Perhaps interesting to note the origin of this name for spacecraft. The legend &quot;Chang&#x27;e flies to the moon&quot; (嫦娥奔月) lies behind the Mid-Autumn Festival (featuring mooncakes, as it were). Point is, the names of Chinese space missions are every bit as carefully steeped in tradition as, say, Mercury&#x2F;Gemini&#x2F;Apollo.
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jackconnorover 6 years ago
The way they used the L2 point to lasso a relay satellite so they could transmit information from the rover on the far side is stunning too. This was really brilliant, China&#x27;s space program has really become something.
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A2017U1over 6 years ago
Copying earlier comment:<p>Wikipedia seems to say the rover mission duration is 3 months, yet the previous rover traveled for a year and transmitted a bit longer. The Chinese seemed quite coy about it failing last time (as with many things) so perhaps underpromising in this case?<p>This all preparation for China&#x27;s planned permanent radio telescope on the far side which would be a huge boon for astronomers by escaping Earth&#x27;s EM interference.<p>Also out left field is the 3kg &quot;self sustaining&quot; biosphere of silkworms and plants with a camera inside. Interested to see how long it survives.
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vermontdevilover 6 years ago
Awesome. Too bad US freezes China out in working with NASA on space exploration. I think we all should partner up despite our political differences.
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skilledover 6 years ago
Can someone explain how are these types of devices safe from hackers? I mean, it talks back to the space agency, right? Just curious is all. Haven&#x27;t seen anything related to this question.
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BattyMilkover 6 years ago
Apologies in advance for the (hopefully not) stupid questions from a layperson...<p>How constant is the L2 point for the relay satellite&#x27;s orbit? If I understand correctly, this is the &quot;balance&quot; point between the earth and sun&#x27;s gravity. Does the moon&#x27;s gravity affect this? If so the L2 point will shift as the moon moves towards and away from this point?<p>As the moon orbits the earth, presumably the relay satellite would stay put and not follow the moon in its orbit. This would mean that communication from the lander and rover to the satellite is only possible when the moon is in a particular position (between the earth and the sun), correct?
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peter303over 6 years ago
Israel and India may be sending landers to the Moon too. India has sent orbiters to the Moon and Mars. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Mars_Orbiter_Mission_2" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Mars_Orbiter_Mission_2</a> <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Chandrayaan-2" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Chandrayaan-2</a><p>An Israeli group got pretty far with an entry in the lunar lander XPrize. But the prize reached its deadline dates and expired. I hear they may be shopping for a deep space launch vehicle.
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DoreenMicheleover 6 years ago
China releases photos from first-ever mission to land on the dark side of the moon<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businessinsider.com&#x2F;photos-dark-side-moon-china-change-4-landing-2019-1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businessinsider.com&#x2F;photos-dark-side-moon-china-...</a>
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m3nuover 6 years ago
Their logo has similarities to a certain sci-fi TV show..<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.space.com&#x2F;22743-china-national-space-administration.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.space.com&#x2F;22743-china-national-space-administrat...</a>
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ams6110over 6 years ago
FTA: &quot;In addition to its value as a scientific exploration target, the Moon’s quiet, airless far side makes it one of the best places in the inner solar system for science applications like radio astronomy.&quot;<p>It what way is any part of the moon not &quot;quiet and airless&quot; ?
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sizzzzlerzover 6 years ago
Does China have an equivalent to NASA&#x27;s Deep Space Network tracking stations? By deploying large antennae in the US, Spain, and Australia, the US was able to maintain 24&#x2F;7 contact with the space missions. Granted, this isn&#x27;t a manned mission but I&#x27;d still think that they&#x27;d want to have continuous comms to their lander.
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dandareover 6 years ago
How much lighter is the lander compared to Apollo moon lander? I mean, how far are the Chinese from sending people to the moon? The Russians landed a Lunokhod too but were very far from sending people to the moon.
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tikumoover 6 years ago
The dark side of the moon, perhaps the perfect place for a big telescope?
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billfruitover 6 years ago
It is kind of surprising that the Chinese choose mystical names for their space probes, rather than names of revolutionary origin (I guess Long March, is an exception).
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dbcooperover 6 years ago
Hopefully they find some carbon in the crust. Only traces have been found so far on the moon.
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datumyover 6 years ago
amazing communication system.
maloneygover 6 years ago
Damn..it is an impressive accomplishment by China.
golferover 6 years ago
From the NYT article [0] on the topic: &quot;We Chinese people have done something that the Americans have not dared try.” -- someone associated with the Chinese space agency<p>Why so insecure? Not a good look.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;01&#x2F;02&#x2F;world&#x2F;asia&#x2F;china-change-4-moon.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;01&#x2F;02&#x2F;world&#x2F;asia&#x2F;china-change-4...</a>
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metabagelover 6 years ago
But did they find a Nazi moon base?<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;ironsky.net&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;ironsky.net&#x2F;</a>
dbrgnover 6 years ago
A great day for listening to Pink Floyd!
soheilover 6 years ago
Nice
erikbover 6 years ago
And until now nobody is complaining how this moon landing was fake because Jim Bridenstine used a 3D simulation instead of a photo. I&#x27;m impressed.
dopylittyover 6 years ago
The headline should be &quot;China claims to successfully land...&quot; Given the government and business tendency in China to make claims that later turn out to be fabricated nothing they announce should be taken as true without independent verification.
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