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This clever AI hid data from its creators to cheat at its appointed task

31 pointsby GotAnyMegadethover 6 years ago

4 comments

olooneyover 6 years ago
This claim is unsupported:<p>&gt; The machine, not smart enough to do the actual difficult job of converting these sophisticated image types to each other<p>Obviously it found an easy way to solve the problem it was given: stenography But could it have solved the problem the researchers intended, if they had framed it correctly? There&#x27;s no evidence either way for this particular algorithm, but in general this is not hard. This is usually called style transfer and I don&#x27;t see any reason to believe that standard techniques[1] wouldn&#x27;t be able to solve the street-map-to-aerial-map problem. And it&#x27;s pretty well established that adding a bit of noise[2] during training helps GANs avoid these kinds of problems.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;tensorflow&#x2F;neural-style-transfer-creating-art-with-deep-learning-using-tf-keras-and-eager-execution-7d541ac31398" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;tensorflow&#x2F;neural-style-transfer-creating...</a><p>[2]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.inference.vc&#x2F;instance-noise-a-trick-for-stabilising-gan-training&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.inference.vc&#x2F;instance-noise-a-trick-for-stabilis...</a>
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longerthoughtsover 6 years ago
So basically AI abiding by Goodhart&#x27;s law (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Goodhart%27s_law" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Goodhart%27s_law</a>). I wonder how much of this goes undetected in other applications due to poor objective definition.
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minimaxirover 6 years ago
Dupe: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=18797787" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=18797787</a>
tivertover 6 years ago
This is a neat result and writeup, but the title very misleading clickbait.
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