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The Feds Cracked El Chapo's Encrypted Comms Network by Flipping His System Admin

89 pointsby lnguyenover 6 years ago

13 comments

morleyover 6 years ago
I&#x27;m curious about this encrypted VoIP network. I&#x27;ve never heard of an off-the-shelf product like that, so was it custom-written? What was the interface like?<p>The source NYT article has some more details, but not enough to answer these questions:<p><pre><code> One of Mr. Guzmán’s Colombian suppliers, Jorge Cifuentes, who introduced the kingpin to the I.T. expert, testified last month that Mr. Rodriguez had promised to arrange secure communications for what amounted to the entire cartel’s leadership. His system operated on VoiP, or voice over internet protocol, Mr. Marston said on Tuesday, and was accessible only to those within the network. According to Mr. Cifuentes, Mr. Guzmán was able to sign in through Wi-Fi even from his hide-outs in the Sierra Madre mountains. </code></pre> <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;01&#x2F;08&#x2F;nyregion&#x2F;el-chapo-trial.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;01&#x2F;08&#x2F;nyregion&#x2F;el-chapo-trial.h...</a>
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giancarlostoroover 6 years ago
I remember an article on HN about disappearing techs who were kidnapped by cartels to build them a custom telecoms network or something. Wondering how related this could be to that.<p>Edit - found the article:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=9145003" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=9145003</a>
carlosdpover 6 years ago
&gt; Amid the accounts of corruption, murder, and drug smuggling, Vice News’ Keegan Hamilton wrote on Twitter, there was a brief moment of levity when lights in the courtroom went out. When the electricity returned, someone shouted “He’s gone!”, referring to Guzmán’s habit of escaping from prison. “Everybody laughed, except maybe the U.S. Marshals,” Hamilton wrote.<p>It&#x27;s interesting how even such a serious situation as this can have these moments of laughter.
rollulusover 6 years ago
The article mentions that the server was moved to the Netherlands, but not the reason. According to the Dutch press, it was because the FBI asked so, because we&#x27;re not so difficult installing wire taps on the internet [1].<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.volkskrant.nl&#x2F;nieuws-achtergrond&#x2F;nederlandse-politie-tapte-anderhalf-jaar-lang-alle-communicatie-van-mexicaanse-drugsbaron-el-chapo-~bab33a30&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.volkskrant.nl&#x2F;nieuws-achtergrond&#x2F;nederlandse-pol...</a>
takinolaover 6 years ago
Asking for a ... friend. What is the mitigation against attacks like this? Seriously, it would appear that every organization is at risk of having a trusted insider hand over keys to a competitor, criminals, etc. There must be a way to detect or protect against this, right?
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HashThisover 6 years ago
The battleground in crypto is so often around crypto key management. With the Snowden revelations, it was obvious that the NSA strategy is going after keys in targets key management systems first.<p>Then cryptoanalysis becomes O(n)
eoinclancy1over 6 years ago
Actually there are a few providers that do encrypted VoIP, or more specifically encrypted SIP. Telnyx offer a private infrastructure deployed around the world with low latency and the really good call quality.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;telnyx.com&#x2F;solutions&#x2F;global-ip-network?utm_source=organic_social&amp;utm_medium=hackernews_organic&amp;utm_campaign=encrypted-voip-january-2019" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;telnyx.com&#x2F;solutions&#x2F;global-ip-network?utm_source=or...</a>
TheMagicHorseyover 6 years ago
Well, we know at least one guy who is going to be dead shortly.
jotmover 6 years ago
Oh they turned him to their side. I was wondering how he could give away anything while they showed him the finger(s) :D
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exabrialover 6 years ago
I hope this guy is in witness protection!
qrbLPHiKpiuxover 6 years ago
The feds didn&#x27;t crack, I recall in the NYT article, the encryption keys were handed over from someone who flipped.
ChrisArchitectover 6 years ago
servers were in Canada?? interesting
paxysover 6 years ago
Reminds me of <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xkcd.com&#x2F;538&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xkcd.com&#x2F;538&#x2F;</a><p>No matter the technological sophistication, humans will always be the weakest link in any secure system.
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