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Poker player bets $100k he can last 30 days in pitch black solitary confinement

111 pointsby ganonmover 6 years ago

19 comments

getpostover 6 years ago
Dark retreat is a traditional practice in Tibetan Buddhism and Bön[0]. The usual guidance is that a dark retreat should be done only when the meditator has attained stability in the Natural State. Not many Westerners are in this zone, but seem able to benefit nonetheless [1],[2]. There are mental health risks[3], as in any other meditation practice. One claim is that sustained darkness stimulates the production of endogenous DMT.[4]<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Dark_retreat" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Dark_retreat</a><p>[1] 3-week Darkness Retreat in Guatemala. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imcb.dharmaseed.org&#x2F;teacher&#x2F;424&#x2F;talk&#x2F;51886&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imcb.dharmaseed.org&#x2F;teacher&#x2F;424&#x2F;talk&#x2F;51886&#x2F;</a><p>[2] Dawning of Clear Light: A Western Approach to Tibetan Dark Retreat Meditation (2003) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Dawning-Clear-Light-Approach-Meditation&#x2F;dp&#x2F;1571743758&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Dawning-Clear-Light-Approach-Meditati...</a><p>[3] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mindful.org&#x2F;willoughby-britton-the-messy-truth-about-mindfulness&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mindful.org&#x2F;willoughby-britton-the-messy-truth-a...</a><p>[4] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.universal-tao.com&#x2F;dark_room&#x2F;enlightenment.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.universal-tao.com&#x2F;dark_room&#x2F;enlightenment.html</a>
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SpikeDadover 6 years ago
Reminds me of the Twilight Zone episode in a gentlemen&#x27;s club where a member bets one annoying member can&#x27;t go a year without speaking.<p>Guess I won&#x27;t spoiler it but the guy has to make a pretty big decision in order to complete the bet - here - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_Silence_(The_Twilight_Zone)" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_Silence_(The_Twilight_Zone...</a>
joezydecoover 6 years ago
Gamblers do all kinds of wacky bets like this. If you are into these kinds of stories, get &quot;The Man With the $100,000 Breasts: And Other Gambling Stories&quot; by Michael Konick<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Man-100-000-Breasts-Gambling&#x2F;dp&#x2F;0767904451&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Man-100-000-Breasts-Gambling&#x2F;dp&#x2F;07679...</a><p>Here&#x27;s a short article about Brian Zembic and his $100,000 breasts as mentioned in the title:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.maxim.com&#x2F;entertainment&#x2F;man-100000-breasts-and-other-bets-gone-wild-2015-11" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.maxim.com&#x2F;entertainment&#x2F;man-100000-breasts-and-o...</a><p>Brian also performed a bet where he tried to stay locked in a bathroom for 30 days to win $14,000.
netcanover 6 years ago
If I were to guess, my guess would be that preparation could make a big difference. Experience being alone. Experience with darkness&#x2F;blindness. Good meditation &quot;shape.&quot;<p>I&#x27;d take this bet.
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m_developerover 6 years ago
I once went on a tour through a lava tunnel in Iceland. Part of the tour was where the guide dimmed all the lights. The feeling of total darkness was quite strange. The guide said that if we would stay in this darkness for a month our eye muscles would atrophy and we would become blind.<p>I would expect Alati to at least feel a little physical effect from his stay in darkness.
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joeblauover 6 years ago
This reminds me of the Peter Tripp stunt where he stayed awake for 8 days straight[1]. It sounds like a great idea but you never know what the side effects will be. I was in a sensory deprivation tank for an hour and I started seeing crazy things.<p>[1] - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Peter_Tripp" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Peter_Tripp</a>
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creaghpatrover 6 years ago
That was a really interesting story. At first I thought it would be tampering to have a voice come through a loudspeaker after 2 weeks of silent darkness with an offer cave, but I&#x27;m glad they resolved the bet without anyone getting hurt (you should read the article I don&#x27;t want to spoil the end).<p>I&#x27;d watch the documentary they will make too.
nndover 6 years ago
If someone wants to experience something similar, sensory deprivation tanks could be an interesting option. I&#x27;d argue that the lack of tactile deprivation in the experiment made a huge difference.
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southphillymanover 6 years ago
After reading about solitary confinement I wanted to test myself by staying in the bathroom in my finished basement for a weekend. I&#x27;d have sunlight through a small window, a toilet, sink, and would have my wife bring me meals 2-3 times a day. I figured this was pretty similar to real solitary confinement with the main differences being I&#x27;d be sleeping on the floor and could leave at any time. Unfortunately she refused to participate so I never did it, but I&#x27;d like to think I could have easily competed it.
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grizzlesover 6 years ago
For me, the craziest prop bet in recent memory was a $2M weight loss bet Ted Forrest won in ~2010 to go from 188 to 138 lbs in 2 months. It&#x27;s been almost a decade so some of the most dramatic pics are hard to find but here&#x27;s one of the ones I found: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.flushdraw.net&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2014&#x2F;09&#x2F;forrest-282x300.jpg" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.flushdraw.net&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2014&#x2F;09&#x2F;forrest-...</a>
gringoDanover 6 years ago
This is fascinating. As a novice meditator, I lasted three days on a silent meditation retreat and it was perhaps the most psychologically taxing experience of my life. I can&#x27;t imagine the mental strength this guy had and years of mental preparation necessary in order to make it through.
vivekdover 6 years ago
What fascinates me about stuff like this is how troubling our own inner thoughts can be when we&#x27;re left alone with them. In this case Alati talked about the importance of controlling his thoughts and preventing himself from spiraling into negativity. It&#x27;s amazing how our own thoughts can take a toll on us and drive us insane when we&#x27;re left alone with them with nothing to distract us. It makes me wonder how much they affect us in our day to day interactions.<p>It almost seems like a sign that something is wrong on a species wide scale when we need to constantly distract ourselves from our own thoughts to prevent being driven mad.
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karmakazeover 6 years ago
I find it hard to imagine going 30 days without tripping bad, at which point any normal person would say stop. I bet against.<p>To me it&#x27;s like giving away 100k and taking bath salts. Reminds me of the movie &quot;Altered States&quot;.
SilasXover 6 years ago
Heh, I&#x27;ve noticed that I seem to be more resistant to the the usual effects of solitary confinement and wondered if I could exploit that &quot;superpower&quot; to make money.
goldenkeyover 6 years ago
Am I correct in that he wipes his arse in pitch darkness? That would be my main concern, not getting shit on myself. But I guess he had the bath to take care of that..
dsfyu404edover 6 years ago
This reminds me of the water torture myth-busters episode where Adam&#x27;s ability to withstand it was only limited by the capacity of his bladder. It&#x27;s not so much the confinement or the water that makes you go crazy, it&#x27;s everything else.
coldcodeover 6 years ago
He might be alive but I imagine he might no longer be sane.
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Aaargh20318over 6 years ago
Sounds great, unfortunately I can&#x27;t afford the $100k.
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Ascetikover 6 years ago
This sounds like something Dan Blizerian would do.