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Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

970 pointsby torvaldover 6 years ago

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kjksfover 6 years ago
Just in case someone might need it: I reverse engineered their API and wrote (an unofficial) client for accessing the data: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;kjk&#x2F;notionapi" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;kjk&#x2F;notionapi</a><p>It&#x27;s for Go but one could easily port it to any other language. It&#x27;s just HTTP requests and some light processing of JSON responses.<p>I use it so that I can have my blog content in Notion. In a daily cron job I download the data from Notion, convert it to HTML and publish on Netlify as a static website. This script is open source: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;kjk&#x2F;blog" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;kjk&#x2F;blog</a><p>Basically I use Notion as CMS.<p>I described my reverse-engineering process in <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.kowalczyk.info&#x2F;article&#x2F;88aee8f43620471aa9dbcad28368174c&#x2F;how-i-reverse-engineered-notion-api.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.kowalczyk.info&#x2F;article&#x2F;88aee8f43620471aa9dbcad2...</a>
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ohadronover 6 years ago
Used notion for about 6 months, but stopped for two main reasons:<p>1. It&#x27;s extremely slow on even a new iPhone - about 6-7 seconds until I can start typing a note. By then I forget what I wanted to write. It&#x27;s basically a webview of a very heavy web app, so it&#x27;s not snappy at all.<p>2. No offline support whatsoever.<p>In addition it feels like they have abandoned development or are busy being acquired (~bi-weekly updates until about three months ago: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.notion.so&#x2F;What-s-New-157765353f2c4705bd45474e5ba8b46c" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.notion.so&#x2F;What-s-New-157765353f2c4705bd45474e5ba...</a>)<p>I migrated back to Bear (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bear.app&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bear.app&#x2F;</a>) which was a pain - exporting from Notion is also not one of their best features.
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louis-paulover 6 years ago
There is something about Notion that makes it feel very well-made and coherent. It’s one of the few apps I use with this inherent feeling of quality (off the top of my head Sublime Text&#x2F;Merge, Beyond Compare, Things fall into this category of intangible greatness). Every interaction is delightful, and the app scales really well from basic note-taking to decently complex databases with grouping, filters, relations, templates and permissions. It comes with really good real-time collaboration.<p>On the flip side the software a bit slow to start and uses a lot of resources—it’s based on Electron, but I encourage everyone to try it (the demo on their website is cool!).<p>This is as close to “painting the back of the fence” as it gets.
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NikolaNovakover 6 years ago
Hmm, I cannot seem to create an account without sharing my Google contacts; which I see no need to do and it&#x27;s needless friction. I get into a loop of clicking checkbox &quot;I don&#x27;t want to share my Google contacts&quot;, then being rerouted back to login page and requested approval to share my contacts.<p>Pricing wise, I wish these types of apps didn&#x27;t have such a steep escalation as soon as I want to share. $4 for individual, but $8&#x2F;team member, which means wanting to share this with my wife is <i>four times as expensive</i> as just using it myself, with limited to no appreciable improvement.
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ausjkeover 6 years ago
I am uncomfortable to put all personal thoughts, diaries, etc into a non-self-hosting place.<p>Can they dockerize this and sell that so I can self-host the docker image instead?<p>for people that is not tech-savvy, what about they buy a docker-container-hosted-by-the-vendor-company but can encrypt the contents in a way that nobody else can peek into the content ever?
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mjulianover 6 years ago
I love the product, but the login workflow is awful. Why innovate on logins? We&#x27;ve solved that problem.<p>Specifically, the login is a randomly-generated one-time code sent to your email address. Notion says this is more secure than them storing a username+password, but that&#x27;s a dubious argument. They&#x27;ve also said this is two-factor auth (lolno). A side effect of this is that Notion is unusable on my mobile device since I have no email on it.<p>I really hope they implement a more traditional login system. Until then, I&#x27;m sticking with Evernote. :(
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benjlangover 6 years ago
I&#x27;m a big Notion fan. Use it for everything in my life, both work and personal. Here&#x27;s a screenshot of my Notion homepage: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;benln&#x2F;status&#x2F;1034475232445181952" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;benln&#x2F;status&#x2F;1034475232445181952</a><p>I also made this site for people to share their Notion pages: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;notionpages.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;notionpages.com</a> You can use that to get a better sense of use cases for Notion.
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tommoorover 6 years ago
If you like Notion but are looking for something open source, similarly polished and more wiki-focused then this will be up your street - <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;getoutline.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;getoutline.com</a><p>We&#x27;ve been building it for 2 years, happy to answer questions.
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mxwsnover 6 years ago
For me, Notion replaced Evernote and I haven&#x27;t looked back. Three features that have been particularly useful for personal productivity are<p>1) explicit support for Kanban board-ing tasks and similar to-do management<p>2) collapsible blocks<p>3) substantially smoother linking to, or embedding, notes within notes<p>Notion is just as sleek as Evernote for small independent notes, but these two features allow Notion to scale much better for projects that require an inter-related network of notes with substantial breadth and depth.
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creativitylandover 6 years ago
Some good alternatives<p>- Quip (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;quip.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;quip.com</a>)<p>- Airtable (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;airtable.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;airtable.com</a>)<p>- Taskade (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;taskade.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;taskade.com</a>)
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techntokeover 6 years ago
This isn&#x27;t self-hosted? I&#x27;m interested in a self-hosted solution that uses local markdown files and directories to manage content.
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owenwilover 6 years ago
For those just discovering Notion, it&#x27;s one of the most liberating tools I&#x27;ve ever used, because it offers just enough complexity to configure it however you want, while still remaining simple on the surface. I just love that I can mould it around how my brain works. I wrote this guide that might be useful for anyone else in understanding its power and what you can do with it: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;@ow&#x2F;the-writers-ultimate-guide-to-notion-6bf90d1cf45b" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;@ow&#x2F;the-writers-ultimate-guide-to-notion-...</a>
lcallover 6 years ago
After trying many different things over the years, I wrote this: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;onemodel.org" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;onemodel.org</a> (yes I plan to move to https sometime). You can think of it something like a personal wiki + emacs org-mode, very efficient, keyboard-oriented, using postgres, but with a much larger vision than today&#x27;s features, including sharing (linking&#x2F;copying securely) between instances, and computability of the info for things like anki-like features. Self-hosted now but open to hosting for others. The most current code is in github (AGPL). Comments&#x2F;questions very welcome, preferably via the mailing list; be patient if my answers are slow. The lists are currently low-volume, and the announcements list should always be.<p>(It can store files, but isn&#x27;t especially smooth about it yet. For personal notes of all kinds, it is <i>the</i> most efficient, effective, flexible thing I know of. The FAQs link to a discussion comparing it with emacs org-mode and others. It has fulltext search, some finicky but very functional import&#x2F;export, a nice numbered-outline export to text, and a journal&#x2F;activity log.)<p>I have noted to look at Notion, and Trillium, to see how much they overlap and if we can collaborate. I have been quite slow lately though, hoping to get more done sometime relatively soon.
atschantzover 6 years ago
I used Notion for a significant period but ended up switching to Nuclino [1] - which is identical in many respects, but without the various add-ons that are unnecessary if you&#x27;re working with text&#x2F;images.<p>I&#x27;ve found it to be more responsive, and to my tastes, it has a better UI. I&#x27;m not a big fan of the emoji&#x2F;blank file image that is necessary with every Notion entry.<p>[1] - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nuclino.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nuclino.com&#x2F;</a>
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atombenderover 6 years ago
Notion looks great, and I&#x27;ve been hoping to migrate it. There are two big problems.<p>One is the migration path from Evernote. If you look at all the current notetaking apps, none of them seem to have capitalized on the fact that there are lots of unhappy Evernote users out there who would kill for a smooth, painless migration path. Instead, these apps ask you to export your Evernote notes as HTML, something which Evernote only lets you do for a single notebook at a time. I have lots of individual notebooks, so this would take forever. Plus, you lose folders and images this way. Why not just write a small app that scrapes the whole Evernote database? Last I checked, it&#x27;s an SQLite database!<p>The other is the lack of offline search. This isn&#x27;t a dealbreaker, but it seems pretty suspect for an app like this. Losing cell service completely is one thing, but shouldn&#x27;t it be &quot;offline indexing first&quot; anyway? Obviously it has all my notes synced at all times. I want the search to be lightning fast even if I&#x27;m on a slow connection.<p>It seems like &quot;attachments&quot; (files like PDFs, and also images) are not stored offline, either. In the iOS app, clicking on a file or image brings up an S3 URL inside an embedded web browser.
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etchalonover 6 years ago
I&#x27;m happy to see more people are realizing Filemaker is a great product.
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asadknover 6 years ago
Notion is just awesome and I have been using it for 6 months now. It&#x27;s the only app I have used so far that feels like a text editor and despite covering so many use-cases, excels at each of them and outdoes individual apps made for that specific purpose.<p>Tools I have replaced with Notion:<p>- Todos &amp; Planning: Evernote, Workflowy, Text Files.<p>- Notes: Google Keep, Text Files.<p>- Work Wiki: MediaWiki.<p>- Collaboration&#x2F;Project Management: Confluence, Trello, Asana.<p>I also use it for pros and cons lists, inspirations and moodboards for design and so on.<p>One thing that would be quite helpful in Notion is to have some sort of &quot;marketplace&quot; where users can share pre-made templates. I am not sure if they have an API for extensions yet, but that would be awesome.
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drsh0over 6 years ago
It&#x27;s great to see Notion get continued exposure. I feel it truly is a great step towards productivity online.<p>I made a list earlier (using Notion) of some next-get productivity platforms that caught my eye if anyone is interested:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.notion.so&#x2F;Next-gen-Productivity-Platform-Research-6ba8df8c007c4e2881957270c3a815b2" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.notion.so&#x2F;Next-gen-Productivity-Platform-Researc...</a><p>It includes both these all-in-one type of tools along with nice project management and spreadsheet&#x2F;db tools like airtable.
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ajflores1604over 6 years ago
+1 for having a native linux client. I&#x27;m not sure what the process would be, but being electron based I can&#x27;t imagine it being extremely hard. Right now I&#x27;m using <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;sysdrum&#x2F;notion-app" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;sysdrum&#x2F;notion-app</a> to basically wrap a browser instance. But there&#x27;s a very noticeable performance difference between this hacky solution and my friends native electron client on MacOS. Especially on my heavier pages with lots of photos. Notion has completely changed my life and workflow, but I feel like I&#x27;m starting to run up against the limits of what I can do on the operating system I&#x27;m on. I even considered reaching out to CodeWeavers the makers of Crossover to see what it would take to make a linux port, but it seems like I actually have to be the owner of the app being ported for that to be an option.
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dawnerdover 6 years ago
We use it to keep track of all Of our tasks and projects. Switched to it after getting annoyed with Asana and not wanting to use something like Jira. We love how freeform it is and allowed us to create a workflow that fit us.<p>There are some gripes I have with it, notifications are still hit or miss despite talking to support about it multiple times - they’ll be delayed or missed altogether if you’ve recently opened the iOS app or have the desktop app open on another computer. Search still needs some love. It should probably weigh recently opened pages higher. And I’d love it if the Mac app was native instead of electron based.<p>Their team is pretty responsive when messaging them so that’s a huge plus.
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tomglynchover 6 years ago
After downloading the mac app and signing up with google I got an email from google saying<p>Security Alert: New device signed in to my@email.com<p>This is a concern. How are they doing the signup that google is not recognising my computer? When signing up as there is no redirect to a google sign in page, for all I know they have just created a fake google sign in page and stolen my credentials.
nirvover 6 years ago
I&#x27;m concerned about the privacy of this service. Do company employees have (or are able to get) access to users&#x27; private data? Is there any data mining in use?
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andischoover 6 years ago
In case anyone is interested in a similar open source solution that can be self hosted I can recommend Trilium (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;zadam&#x2F;trilium" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;zadam&#x2F;trilium</a>). It was also recently featured on HN. I since host it on my private server and it works like a charm.
motdiemover 6 years ago
I’ve started using notion as a kind of personal wiki a few months ago, and I really like it for that. Breaking the distinction between files and folders is one of the ways it’s way easier for me to navigate&#x2F;structure than it is in google docs.<p>My only issue with Notion is that I feel it’s hard to get stuff out of it, especially on mobile. I sometimes type draft documents with it that I really don’t want to share as notion links, and I haven’t figured out how to export them on a phone - I usually have to go to my computer and export the markdown&#x2F;process it then share...
jatinsover 6 years ago
I think Notion tries to do too much (a database? really?) and because of that it&#x27;s not _great_ at any. Yes, at the end of it you can end up with pretty looking pages but the process is not fun. For example, you _can_ use Notion as Trello, but it always feels like fitting a square peg in a round hole. (a path which Slite and Quip also took)<p>Apps like Bear on the other hand, don&#x27;t try be a smarter paper and end up being great at their limited use case.<p>Maybe, for enterprise customers it has some value, but as a personal user I didn&#x27;t find much utility in it.
torvaldover 6 years ago
I am wondering if this is just the thing for our workplace - it is remarkable how spot on their value proposition is. It is not every feature from every service - but they seem to deliver very well on core functionality. And I must say that their landing page is one of the better I have seen for a SaaS.<p>I posted this in hopes of people posting stories and discussions about their experiences and thoughts about the product - which you very well delivered, thanks.
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juddlyonover 6 years ago
Pro tip: copied text from Notion is pasted as Markdown in your text editor.
andyflemingover 6 years ago
This seems like a mash-up of Air Table and Quip. I&#x27;m curious to see how the functionality compares for day-to-day tasks.
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evertheylenover 6 years ago
I too am a big Notion fan. However, I have a ton of things I would improve, two of which I kinda solved already: drawing input [0] and inline math [1]. The success of these has led me to create a small slack group to discuss other such hacks, more info at [2].<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.notion.so&#x2F;evertheylen&#x2F;Notation-e7a4f861a5ed4d14a767326062f80e89" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.notion.so&#x2F;evertheylen&#x2F;Notation-e7a4f861a5ed4d14a...</a> [1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.notion.so&#x2F;evertheylen&#x2F;Notion-Inline-Math-9c5047a4e7c84643848b3630db8d5a5e" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.notion.so&#x2F;evertheylen&#x2F;Notion-Inline-Math-9c5047a...</a> [2]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.notion.so&#x2F;notionhacks&#x2F;Notion-Hacks-27b92f71afcd4ae2ac9a4d14fef0ce47" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.notion.so&#x2F;notionhacks&#x2F;Notion-Hacks-27b92f71afcd4...</a>
ArtWombover 6 years ago
Not gonna lie. That knowledge base with the collapsible menu looks like a very useful feature. Especially with integrated search. Will definitely give it a try. As far as self hosting goes. If there is a feature to export to text, csv or md. One could use the app to edit. Then archive and serve a read only copy locally.
celestialcheeseover 6 years ago
Nothing to say but it&#x27;s a fantastic product - if the team behind notion is reading this.. keep up the great work!
mshanksover 6 years ago
We&#x27;re are developing an open source offering in this space: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;budibase.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;budibase.com</a> . Planning to have an MVP in the summer - at which stage we will also make the source public.<p>We are more focussed around a tool for building SaaS products, fast. However, we are planning to build a Notion-like app using BudiBase, for management of the project &amp; business.<p>Sign up for updates if you&#x27;re interested!<p>Website is a bit vague on detail right now... a few features:<p>- Design your own data model: create typed fields, data validation rules, object relationships, indexing &amp; scaling options<p>- HTTP Api for all CRUD operations, based on your data model<p>- User Management &amp; User Role definitions<p>- Generated UI, with the ability to drop in your own UI wherever suits<p>- Fully pluginable backend, for integrations<p>- Output is a Single Page Web application, with an HTTP Api &amp; data storage. Web app will be mobile ready (PWA).
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kbos87over 6 years ago
Having switched from Evernote about 6 months ago, here are some of the biggest positives and negatives to me -<p>Biggest positive: The variety of formats &amp; integrations. I use “toggles” and tables a ton. This was the main reason I switched and it’s enough of a differentiator to keep me around.<p>Biggest negative: Notion doesn’t handle a large volume of notes well. There is no easily accessible metadata, no tagging, no way to see a table of notes sorted by create date as far as I can tell.<p>Other observations:<p>It’s terrifyingly easy to delete a note and not realize it. Notes show up as a line item in their parent note; a simple press of the delete button and a note is gone with no warning<p>Sharing is also a little funny. Shared notes show up in a separate workspace and are easy to forget about.<p>Also, no offline support at all... if you aren’t connected, you can’t do anything on the desktop or iOS app.
grumblestumbleover 6 years ago
This seems like a great tool. What&#x27;s the security model for this? I get that it&#x27;s offline first with sync capabilities, but is notion hosting any of this content to facilitate syncing and if so is it encryped etc? Is there an easy way to export all of my content?
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incognita6over 6 years ago
Like Notion a lot and we looked at a number of the modern wiki tools (cloud based).<p>vs Confluence it is much faster. We did end up with Confluence, but that wasn&#x27;t my first choice.<p>vs Samepage it just felt a lot more modern. That might be harsh, but we only had a limited time to eval all the options.<p>vs Quip, well, it&#x27;s Salesforce. The sales was spammy and you just know how hard the sale will be if you&#x27;ve ever used the core SF products.<p>Best OS with a combo of Bookstackapp and a ticket system that I forget the name of now. No integration between the two, and no support.<p>The reason it lost in the end was it was the only one that didn&#x27;t have draw.io integrated and we do a lot of diagramming. But, as I say, really nice and I would have preferred it to Confluence.
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sonaltrover 6 years ago
I wish they had an API to integrate with.
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josephpmayover 6 years ago
I use Notion for my personal productivity, and I highly recommend it. It&#x27;s one of the few personal tools I&#x27;m happy to pay for. It many ways it&#x27;s a personal wiki, and it is incredibly easy to use.<p>Notion has made it much easier to keep track of and refer back to my old notes. For example, I used to draft emails in an unorganized OneNote notebook. If I needed to find an old draft, I&#x27;d have to use search and hope that I remembered the right keywords. With Notion, I make all of my email drafts a subpage of an email page, which makes them much easier to find.
djhworldover 6 years ago
The amount of times note taking apps and products appear on the HN front page is quite amusing. Has anyone ever cracked this nut?<p>I&#x27;ve been using Joplin for about a year, it works. Could be better, but does the job
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manigandhamover 6 years ago
Glad to see this here, it&#x27;s a very well-built product that finds the perfect balance between strict JIRA&#x2F;PM tools and completely unstructured wikis&#x2F;text files.<p>Everything is a &quot;block&quot; and blocks can be nested and attached together to create pages&#x2F;subpages, tables, kanban boards, calendars, etc. It&#x27;s a very nice way of working and everything loads fast. The sharing links are nice too.<p>Only feedback would be fixing some UI issues that can be a little too sensitive, with an errant keypress or misclick changing everything.
jamalexover 6 years ago
I made a Python API wrapper in case annoying would find it useful: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;learningequality.org&#x2F;r&#x2F;notion-py-an-unofficial-python-api-wrapper-for-notion-so" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;learningequality.org&#x2F;r&#x2F;notion-py-an-unofficial-pytho...</a><p>It has full read&#x2F;write support for Notion data, with a local data store that live-updates async when data changes on Notion, including callbacks. And you can manipulate database entries using classes with columns mapped to slugified attributes.
pbowyerover 6 years ago
I&#x27;ve tried Notion (I&#x27;ve tried most PIMs since 2003) but it didn&#x27;t fit my brain &#x2F; what I wanted to do with it. Not enough structure yet too constraining.<p>The closest I&#x27;ve found is Workflowy, but it&#x27;s just that bit too basic.<p>I store all web clippings in Evernote and hope to find what I want one day.<p>I bookmark heavily into an online service, and wish my tag vocabulary was better constrained (but full text search helps).<p>And finally I mind map on paper; none of the digital ones have quite cut it.<p>One day there will be a PIM to rule them all. One day.
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zoom6628over 6 years ago
As a product manager I have to say the UI is great. Simple, clean, easy to navigate. If only Enterprise apps could be made to look this good (yes its possible but usually politics get in the way).<p>On Android also works smoothly even on my low capacity line at home.<p>Security aspects raised by others is a concern - there is enough secure storage solutions out there it should be high on the roadmap to address that so there is encryption at rest (and at REST :-D ) . Data should only be accesible to team or public. Nobody else, ever.<p>My 2c.
alphagrep12345over 6 years ago
One more todo and notes app. Why does the world need so many such apps? I always find myself changing from one such app to another, porting all the existing notes. Currently I&#x27;m using onenote and am very content with it. But there&#x27;s always this feeling that something&#x27;s not quite right. I tried evernote, onenote, and several other notes apps. I don&#x27;t understand why I try so many note taking apps. I think others too feel the same way. Any ideas why?
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plexiglassover 6 years ago
Hello HN, first time long time here.<p>I use Notion.so personally and professionally and must say its totally changed my game. Notion.so feels like a personal digi Marie Kondo.
stevoskiover 6 years ago
What Slack did for chat and GitHub did for source control, Notion does for keeping information organised.<p>My prediction: In five years time, most of us will be using Notion.
elcometover 6 years ago
Is a Linux desktop app planned? It&#x27;s only available on windows &#x2F; Mac OS.
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itayskover 6 years ago
If they added mind map as a progression, that would be the perfect tool. I really need a hybrid text editor&#x2F; list editor &#x2F; mind map
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mosselmanover 6 years ago
Notion is great in features, but it is just so slow and I find the editor hard to work with. Text doesn&#x27;t flow nicely and it is clumsy to navigate between blocks. Some blocks are editable, some are stuck, etc. It is pretty hard. The speed gets me the most though. Maybe the website is actually better than the electron app, I always use the electron app.
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KuroSaruover 6 years ago
Notion looks polished, the mobile app on the other hand is clunky, simple tasks like adding a member to a worspace is a hard task and if you don&#x27;t close the android app completely it wont always update.<p>Like many others id like a version I could host myself locally, id happy pay for a licence to do so, and no id not expect any support at all. granted i&#x27;d expect yearly or monthly licences that had user limits, 10,50,100,enterprise.<p>Sadly i suspect that the reason there is no own-hosted version, be it paid or free open source is the fact that notion has been built around services like AWS&#x2F;DO&#x2F;RS for scalability and was never designed to be able to run in a single container and use a local datastore be it a MongoDB or (Ms&#x2F;My)SQL(lite) database.<p>I may consider paying but not knowing where my data is stored, in what country, if it is encrypted or not or truly who has access is always an issue for me, as I&#x27;m sure it is for others.<p>Still a great service well worth checking out.
patconover 6 years ago
This whole all-in-one thing has near-zero appeal to me :&#x2F;<p>I have an urge to willfully resist entering monopoly scenarios. I prefer the ability to evolve process through a non-linear opportunity space (though I of course want to insulate the majority of others in my communities from being forced to grapple with that full infinite opportunity space :)
wordpressdevover 6 years ago
I am in the process of moving my digital life to Notion. This includes my huge collection of bookmarks, 40+ browser tabs, dozen or so text files and content of some spreadsheets.<p>Here&#x27;s my work in progress: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;a&#x2F;LKY7RlP" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;a&#x2F;LKY7RlP</a>
hanleyover 6 years ago
Does anyone use this with their spouse &#x2F; significant other? Seems like a great tool to have shared docs, lists, todos, etc. I&#x27;m thinking things like house and car maintenance, financial planning, shopping lists, and all the other things that I normally keep in a combination of Google Docs and Apple Notes.
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MarkyC4over 6 years ago
We use them in lieu of JIRA. Overall I like the product!<p>I wish they had ticket numbers (I like to put ticket numbers in TODOs in the code for more context; I think it leads to more TODOs being done). I had to hack them in using timestamps and hashes.<p>The ability to see tickets assigned to you (and not in closed status) would be useful too
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bauerdover 6 years ago
Only partly on topic, but I wish there was a Confluence&#x2F;Notion-inspired knowledge management software that&#x27;s embedded in Git, like git-bug: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;MichaelMure&#x2F;git-bug" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;MichaelMure&#x2F;git-bug</a>
PurpleRamenover 6 years ago
Looks like a sleek and powerful interface, but at end seems to be just another kitchensink for manual input. No scripting or other automation and service-API is still in work.<p>Im always a bit surprised that programmer invest such an amount of time into recreating the same software again and again. Notes&amp;Task-Manager are all more or less the same, and most of them are not something which a programmer really should use. Those people are handling code and data for other people as natural as a cook his knife. And yet when it comes to their own data they always go for the stale and static, the dumb solution which can is so different from their normal self. Why is that?
reaperducerover 6 years ago
How well does this handle large file attachments? One of the problems one of my teams has is that they regularly need to trade and update files that most collaboration tools can&#x27;t handle (Several hundred megs to 1GB).
tapsboyover 6 years ago
Been a paid user for a while. I love all the UI elements, markdown support, cross-platform compatibility etc. I have used Evernote, Simple Note and Boostnote previously.<p>Some problems however:<p>Desktop app takes a while to load. I understand it&#x27;s electron, but so are Slack and VSCode. I am ready to keep it open on Mac. But on pressing Cmd+W, it closes the app, though not quit. Re-opening from that state is still slow. No other electron apps do that.<p>Offline experience on mobile isn&#x27;t good. When I am in subway and want to jot down something quickly, it searches for internet for a while before allowing me to do anything
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ernsheongover 6 years ago
A great deal of comments here want self-hosted capability, understandably given the HN crowd. But really, Notion is (probably) not in a position to do that, given their code being proprietary from Day 1.<p>I run PageDash [1], a personal web archive service, and that is also the No. 1 ask. While I can understand it, for any startup to focus on self-hosting from Day 1 is probably a shot in the foot, unless I have an open-source model from Day 1.<p>Just a cautionary note.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pagedash.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pagedash.com</a>
lunchablesover 6 years ago
Why is anyone using this? From reading the comments:<p>&gt;Requires Google contacts to be shared to sign up<p>&gt;Can&#x27;t export my data<p>&gt;Extremely slow on mobile (iPhone)<p>&gt;Updates stalled, seems abandoned<p>&gt;No Linux electron app<p>And I&#x27;m only half way through the comments.
bjeanesover 6 years ago
I&#x27;ve been using Notion for a couple of years now and it has consistently gotten better, faster, more useable, and more exciting.<p>I cannot recommend this product and the team behind it enough.
rcarmoover 6 years ago
I really, really want something like this as a desktop, fully native app, for personal use, and maybe with Groove-like peer to peer sync for small, closed groups.
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honkycatover 6 years ago
I would love to use a product like Notion, but I cannot leave my vim&#x2F;Emacs keybindings behind!<p>Would be cool if they had the ability to import &#x2F; export structured text.
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amaiover 6 years ago
See a nice comparison here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;raw.githubusercontent.com&#x2F;fabiospampinato&#x2F;notable&#x2F;master&#x2F;resources&#x2F;comparison&#x2F;table.png" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;raw.githubusercontent.com&#x2F;fabiospampinato&#x2F;notable&#x2F;ma...</a><p>from <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;fabiospampinato&#x2F;notable" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;fabiospampinato&#x2F;notable</a>
chooseanameover 6 years ago
I love this.<p>Slightly OT, but does anyone have some links to open source apps &#x2F; tutorials from creating pages that are fairly free form like this? I&#x27;m a backend kind of entity, so the front end is a mystery.<p>Edit: I&#x27;m not asking in an &quot;I&#x27;m going to make my own&quot; kind of way. I&#x27;m asking in an &quot;I&#x27;ve always been curious how other devs solve problems &#x2F; create things&quot; kind of way.
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crooked-vover 6 years ago
I&#x27;ve pretty much immediately fallen in love with this service. For me, the killer feature is that the &#x27;share&#x27; functionality lets me share a public link to that page and subpages with no personal info included, so it can double as a pastebin&#x2F;Dropbox-share replacement.<p>If they just had a way to associate shared pages with a custom domain, this could be a Medium replacement too.
geekamongusover 6 years ago
This is really, really awesome and has the crucial features I require out of a notes app, including pasting images from the system clipboard and a deep hierarchy of pages&#x2F;folders.<p>Sadly, I just poured hours of time into putting all my stuff from OneNote into a self-hosted instance of BookStack. However, I like the looks of Notion so much, I am probably going to have to move again!
ben7799over 6 years ago
Not sure how this product (if it&#x27;s new) isn&#x27;t running afoul on Presonus&#x27; trademarks for &quot;Notion&quot;.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.presonus.com&#x2F;products&#x2F;Notion" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.presonus.com&#x2F;products&#x2F;Notion</a><p>Presonus&#x27; product is for music but it is a software product, it is trademarked, and it is older than this one AFAICT.
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joelrunyonover 6 years ago
Notion is my favorite app of 2018. It&#x27;s seriously a game changer for my personal organization and how my team communicates.
thiago_liraover 6 years ago
Does someone who uses Notion has a working pipeline to automatically import notes from Kindle Highligths?
killjoywashereover 6 years ago
These &quot;I will organize all your world&quot; apps pop up at a non-trivial rate. Seems like they&#x27;re mostly designing some database tables and then serving a front-end. Am I missing something? Is there something deeper than database design that I&#x27;m missing?
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travisclineover 6 years ago
Some cli tools here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;tmc&#x2F;notion&#x2F;tree&#x2F;master&#x2F;cmd" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;tmc&#x2F;notion&#x2F;tree&#x2F;master&#x2F;cmd</a><p>I use these plus some vim recordings to do bidi synchronization of buffers
lazyantover 6 years ago
We&#x27;ve been using Notion for a year or two now (a lot of people didn&#x27;t like Confluence) and it&#x27;s been working pretty well.<p>I particularly like how they construct URLs for documents; it always keep its ID regardless of title changes, but it also shows the title in the URL.
_____sover 6 years ago
I&#x27;ve been using Notion for quite some time now. It&#x27;s pretty neat although I wish it was (a) faster and (b) had a better writing experience. I find Dropbox Paper to offer the best writing experience but Notion is unbelievably flexible, so I use it instead.
sebastianover 6 years ago
There is an small bug that I found when trying to signup. The signup form doesn&#x27;t allow signing up with .co domains [1].<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;NDcd6X1.png" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;NDcd6X1.png</a>
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thatthatisover 6 years ago
Notion feels like SVN. The implementation that is workable and delivers enough value to tolerate, but isn’t quite there.<p>Somebody please take what they’ve done, fix the annoyances, and turn it into Git.<p>A single central source of truth is long long overdue
lucasfcostaover 6 years ago
I wish I could import stuff from Evernote into Notion. Just copying and pasting would be amazing. If I could copy and paste checklists (or maybe even just copy a list and turn multiple items into checklist items at once).
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raz32dustover 6 years ago
Does it allow exporting data to human readable form like csv? I am very wary of exposing myself to the risk of losing all this information and history if the company goes under or if I want to change to something else.
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asdkhadsjover 6 years ago
Can anyone compare this to Dynalist? I&#x27;ve been experimenting with Dynalist as more of an information &#x2F; brain dump tracker. A notepad, for people who can&#x27;t write -_-. Yet, I&#x27;m not super happy with Dynalist.<p>Thoughts?
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JunaidBhaiover 6 years ago
This is one of those products that I feel I should&#x27;ve come across earlier.
methouover 6 years ago
I really like the make and structure of the notion, but lack of encryption beyond tls is a deal breaker to me. Also, their developer has no intention to implement encryption whatsoever, just like the Evernote.
peterwwillisover 6 years ago
If somebody could develop some products like this that either create or extend open standards so we have the freedom to use any client or service provider we want, I&#x27;d throw my money at them so fast.
danolsover 6 years ago
400 comments and now one mentions the missing web clipper feature, which is a deal breaker for me.<p>I guess that answers the question why this feature has been &#x27;in development&#x27; for close to 2 years now.
synaesthesisxover 6 years ago
Unfortunately due to privacy concerns we have issues using this - I would be very interested if they offered a self-hosted option. Notion looks great and I might try it out for side projects.
ahuthover 6 years ago
The product looks really really nice. Wish it had better accessibility, though - from what I can tell, everything is a div :&#x2F;<p>No links, buttons, or anything (that I saw in my 5 min of checking it out).
bovermyerover 6 years ago
Oh, I love this. I&#x27;m especially fond of how well the keyboard integration works!<p>I JUST got my cofounder to regularly use Trello, though, so I&#x27;m not going to make him switch to this. Not yet.
bg0over 6 years ago
We use this for our companies sprints and it&#x27;s been working out pretty well for the last few months. Give&#x27;s us a LOT of flexibility in the way we want to do things.
agsilvioover 6 years ago
I&#x27;ve been working on a similar project more suited to my own tastes. It&#x27;s free and online and in-progress. jumproot.com.<p>Sure, it&#x27;s self-promotion, but highly pertinent.
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thecoppingerover 6 years ago
I&#x27;ve been using Notion on and off for the past year, and have to say it&#x27;s exceptionally well made and thought-out. If you haven&#x27;t yet, give it a try.
Sholmesyover 6 years ago
Really satisfied (free) user that will likely pay the monthly fee at some point.<p>It&#x27;s friction-less, but with some rules&#x2F;ideas in place to help you.<p>Well done Notion team, 100% satisfied
satanic_popeover 6 years ago
Looks clean.<p>Would love to try some time but can&#x27;t imagine porting all my notes (and knowledge base) from Evernote that I&#x27;ve accumulated over the years. Too exhaustive.
thomasflover 6 years ago
Lotus Notes was not dead, it just got reinvented as Notion.
tequila_shotover 6 years ago
Sorry, how is this different from Quip? Looks exactly same?
anigbrowlover 6 years ago
Eh...this is nice, I really like it, but it&#x27;s just solving the same problems that some of the things it offers to replace were solving. Call it Lessware.
tzhongover 6 years ago
I use Notion for everything now - work and personal. The blocks are super smart.<p>I crowdsourced a bunch of workflows and product suggestions on Twitter: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;TZhongg&#x2F;status&#x2F;1067234359915163648" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;TZhongg&#x2F;status&#x2F;1067234359915163648</a><p>all I do is talk about Notion with my friends tbh. if anyone wants free $10 credit, here ya go: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.notion.so&#x2F;?r=02c3100209a54c48b22e19771ba4c916" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.notion.so&#x2F;?r=02c3100209a54c48b22e19771ba4c916</a>
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komali2over 6 years ago
Gorgeous UI - whiffs of web brutalism, though not so &quot;purposefully ugly&quot; as sometimes that can get. Appears very functional without any cruft.
deckar01over 6 years ago
Notion is synonym of inkling, Matt Macinnis invested, and it has drag and drop composition... I wonder if some people from Inkling are working on this.
homakovover 6 years ago
Why use anything that&#x27;s not end to end encrypted this day? Why share you data with a server that has no actual reason to have your data in plain?
o_____________oover 6 years ago
What sets this apart from incumbents like Basecamp?
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ranie93over 6 years ago
Tangent: How fine is it to build a business with a Somalian&#x2F;International TLD? Could a rug be pulled underneath you?
dirtylowprofileover 6 years ago
I’m using iOS default Notes and Things 3. Why should I migrate all my notes and tasks here and pay to sync?<p>It can’t even cache online
brightballover 6 years ago
Alright...this looks great.<p>One question though, if it&#x27;s electron based why in the world isn&#x27;t there a Linux Desktop client?
iddanover 6 years ago
Best app in the game. Since we started using Notion we’ve documented any important procedure just because it’s fun
bg0over 6 years ago
My only hope for Notion is that the Calendar gets updated so we can view different pages into one calendar view.
robohoeover 6 years ago
So how does Notion make money? By mining your tasks&#x2F;knowledge base articles? Analytics? Serving ads?
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deskamessover 6 years ago
For any existing users, is there a provision to create alarms&#x2F;due dates attached to your notes?
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perfunctoryover 6 years ago
Has anybody compared it with coda.io?
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travisluisover 6 years ago
Can Notion do infinitely zoomable lists, a la workflowy? As far as I can tell, it cannot.
rcdwealthover 6 years ago
Who is so stupid to give up all contact information to anonymous people over website...
sidcoolover 6 years ago
This is so well made. I love the concept and the ambition of the idea. Good luck!
spraakover 6 years ago
Check out Dynalist for a more minimal (and slightly different paradigm) offering
toshvelagaover 6 years ago
Got a chance to meet the founder a few weeks ago. He&#x27;s a really cool guy.
jgammanover 6 years ago
What&#x27;s with the playboy bunnies as the team avatars on your homepage?
leowoo91over 6 years ago
Looks nice. Are we getting away from the term &quot;ERP&quot; by the way?
lgreggover 6 years ago
I love notion, been using it to collaborate with my friend on a project.
Hernanpmover 6 years ago
looks good as an alternative to my github wiki <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;hrnn&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;wiki" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;hrnn&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;wiki</a>
vijayrawatsanover 6 years ago
Overall UI is nice but it takes a lot of time to create a new template.
Uhrheberover 6 years ago
Why would I put my most important data on someone else&#x27;s computer?
uvuover 6 years ago
Great app. We use notion as a team. Happy to see on HN front page.
amaiover 6 years ago
Can I send emails to notion and it will store them as notes?
agumonkeyover 6 years ago
I had visions of Google Wave watching their screenshots :)
vijayrawatsanover 6 years ago
I like the app but it is too slow to create new items.
amaiover 6 years ago
What are the advantages over Atlassian Confluence?
amaiover 6 years ago
Does it support math formulas in LaTeX notation?
exitcode00over 6 years ago
Another electron toy saves the day complete with flat buttons and hamburgers - I wonder how reliable and fast it is?<p>Is it that hard to make something in QT that doesn&#x27;t eat up a gig of RAM?
nofunsirover 6 years ago
So... like Lotus Notes, reinvented&#x2F;respun?
urlwolfover 6 years ago
This looks very close to quip.
nerdponxover 6 years ago
<i>Terms and Privacy</i><p><i>TLDR: Notion does not own your data, nor do we sell it to others or use it for advertising. It&#x27;s your data, period </i>
alinspiredover 6 years ago
Looks a lot like OneNote, how this is different?
patrickxieover 6 years ago
does this work over in china?
kemitchellover 6 years ago
Somalia?
camerondollover 6 years ago
What about privacy? I read through their pages and found nothing. Is it end to end encrypted? I don&#x27;t want some disgruntled employee to leak my life plans. How is this protected against such event?
coleiferover 6 years ago
Looks nice, but I am uneasy putting this kind of information into an opaque platform. Google, Salesforce, a self-hosted wiki...not going anywhere plus options to export and move.<p>If it were a desktop app with a local sqlite DB then, yes, definitely (for single user). If I could run a network security and host it on my company intranet, absolutely.
thegabezover 6 years ago
Stopped reading after I saw emojis splattered EVERYWHERE in the UI.
asdf333over 6 years ago
Only 1000 blocks for free<p>1000 blocks == 1&#x2F;3 of Moby Dick?<p>that sounds like a terrible deal compared to evernote and all the other apps this promises to replace
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