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Ask HN: What keeps you going?

15 pointsby zeequreshiover 6 years ago
How does one deal with apathy like feelings?

9 comments

muzaniover 6 years ago
Csikszentmihalyi has searched for the key to happiness. His research was not so much what makes people happy but when they are happy. The results - flow.<p>This graph hosted on Wikipedia might explain it: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;upload.wikimedia.org&#x2F;wikipedia&#x2F;commons&#x2F;thumb&#x2F;f&#x2F;f6&#x2F;Challenge_vs_skill.svg&#x2F;300px-Challenge_vs_skill.svg.png" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;upload.wikimedia.org&#x2F;wikipedia&#x2F;commons&#x2F;thumb&#x2F;f&#x2F;f6&#x2F;Ch...</a><p>As you can see, apathy is on the bottom left. It&#x27;s what happens when you&#x27;re facing low skill, unchallenging work.<p>Ideally, you want to be in the flow sector. Or at least in control&#x2F;arousal sectors.<p>The easiest step would be a little self training. Even if your job is just refactoring, learn to refactor better from sites like <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;refactoring.guru&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;refactoring.guru&#x2F;</a> or learn to type faster, use more shortcuts, master your IDE. If you&#x27;re doing something like Wordpress, you can learn to deal with servers better. If you&#x27;re a project manager, there are plenty of tools and techniques to pick up.<p>This should at least push you from apathy to relaxation or control.<p>The other path is vertical, which is to take on harder work. Learn a new framework and use it. Take a job outside your comfort zone. Work on a challenging side project.<p>Most of my work puts me in the anxiety zone, which makes me procrastinate a lot and is not ideal. But it&#x27;s still better than apathy.<p>It is a more painful path, but it also tends to pay much better.
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tjkrusinskiover 6 years ago
Realizing that everyone else feels the same thing and we all have the same things.<p>We all are subject to time. We all are subject to the strengths and weaknesses of our minds. We all are a bit nervous about this or that.<p>If I act out of fear, I will hit a wall. If I am honest and say that I don&#x27;t know, that I am not sure if this is going to work, that I don&#x27;t think I&#x27;m able to do this, I&#x27;ll be better off.<p>Being strong isn&#x27;t too dissimilar from being bold. Being bold can mean not being afraid of showing my shortcomings. Showing my shortcomings means admitting my weaknesses. By showing my weaknesses I am being strong. Do this day after day and see that things are generally going in the right direction, maybe a little slower than I expected, but things aren&#x27;t linear, time is.<p>I can control the outcome in so much as I can control myself. It&#x27;ll happen if I do it. It won&#x27;t if I don&#x27;t. That could mean project managing the fuck out of something, it doesn&#x27;t have to mean actually doing it.<p>If I motivate someone else to do it, then that was something I did. I did something to get them to do something.<p>What if I can&#x27;t motivate myself? Well, I can&#x27;t muster some things out of thin air. I need to fill the soul. I talk to someone else, do something else, change perspectives, or I push. I just push.<p>Action yields motivation. The more that I have, the more capacity I have to act, the more I&#x27;ll be motivated to do more.<p>My family, my wife, what I&#x27;ve been given, is why I push myself to learn that thing or do that thing.<p>Idk, kinda stream of consciousness but generally, the thought that I am more well off <i>because</i> of the millions of people that came before me, and by doing and acting, I can make the billions after me more well off in a small way. I like that thought.
thiago_fmover 6 years ago
Responsibilities and how my life has improved so far(lived far less than &lt;$1 a day and now got a decent job in a first world country), raw effort pays off.<p>I need to take care of my wife and of my dog. Also, my family and peers have invested a lot of time and effort in getting myself educated, manners etc. I don&#x27;t want to let anybody down and make sure that whoever had some good effect on me will at least be proud of helping me out into that.
java_scriptover 6 years ago
Lining the pockets of the investors that own my labor is a reward in and of itself.<p>E: Just thought of a cool startup idea. Every day you and your coworkers can calculate (it might take some guesstimating) the surplus value you create and try to beat each other on a leaderboard. I&#x27;m imagining a possible JIRA integration.
ishjohover 6 years ago
When I&#x27;m feeling apathetic it&#x27;s a sign for me that I&#x27;ve gotten too comfortable and I need to have some sort of adventure or new responsibilities that push me out of my comfort zone.<p>If you are feeling apathetic try something new, even if your apathy is telling you it&#x27;s a waste of time, just go for it, you might be pleasantly surprised. Even if the new thing doesn&#x27;t pan out, at least it frees you up to move onto something else.
e9over 6 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;positivedisintegration.com&#x2F;Webb2008.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;positivedisintegration.com&#x2F;Webb2008.pdf</a>
bemmuover 6 years ago
Curiosity about what will happen next, both in my life and with the world in general.
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quickthrower2over 6 years ago
Routine &amp; family :)
mortivoreover 6 years ago
coffee and water