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Being collateral damage in the culture wars of the West

114 pointsby dragonbonheurover 6 years ago

6 comments

jessaustinover 6 years ago
<i>In April of 2018, when Vice Magazine’s lawyers pressured Patreon to drop my account, I had no other options that would enable me to keep my YouTube channel going.</i><p>ZOMG that&#x27;s so evil! She complained that you didn&#x27;t respect her desire to remain anonymous, so you destroy her livelihood? Why would any source trust Vice to safeguard her anonymity or indeed to do anything they promised after this saga of shitty behavior? Answer: they rely on sources not knowing anything about them, because after all the sources don&#x27;t have the iron control of the social media &quot;conversation&quot; that Western journalists have.<p>[EDIT: removed speculation]
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mc32over 6 years ago
It&#x27;s sad that an organization like the NYT would engage in unbecoming behavior to protect one of their own&#x27;s bad behavior (going against an agreement not to basically doxx someone) and going so far as character assassination because what Naomi Wu claimed went against the NYT&#x27;s narrative.
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tareqakover 6 years ago
There really should be a way to &quot;roll your own Patreon&quot; for individuals. Whatever your individual viewpoints on each of the de-platforming incidents in the recent past, having them all be lumped into one service makes it easier to take down and disrupt the users of said service. I don&#x27;t think Bitcoin is necessary yet given the amount of additional complexity for the average creator and average patron, just a separate web page that allows for recurring subscriptions.
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towaway1138over 6 years ago
Sad story. And just one more stake in the heart of NYT&#x27;s credibility.
masonicover 6 years ago
Jeong was already infamous for defending[0] the U. of Virginia rape hoaxer[1].<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.breitbart.com&#x2F;tech&#x2F;2016&#x2F;11&#x2F;04&#x2F;report-jury-rules-against-rolling-stone-in-fake-uva-rape-story-lawsuit&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.breitbart.com&#x2F;tech&#x2F;2016&#x2F;11&#x2F;04&#x2F;report-jury-rules-...</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.breitbart.com&#x2F;tech&#x2F;2018&#x2F;08&#x2F;03&#x2F;flashback-new-york-times-bigot-sarah-jeong-defended-uva-rape-hoaxer" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.breitbart.com&#x2F;tech&#x2F;2018&#x2F;08&#x2F;03&#x2F;flashback-new-york...</a>
justaguyonlineover 6 years ago
Found the story as written by SexyCyborg in the post very hard to follow, plus it felt a little too self serving to take 100% at face value.<p>I&#x27;ll admit though, I saw her once on Hacker News the first time she went viral, later read that Reddit &quot;expose&quot; and then promptly never thought of her again. It took a while to walk back what I thought was happening so I could understand what was going on.<p>This video [1] helped me get the actual context of the article.<p>The West honestly doesn&#x27;t come off well in this, but neither does China really. More of the same &quot;are the people with power over others using it with decency and respect?&quot;<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Y0dkwwV_iaw" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Y0dkwwV_iaw</a>