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Podman and Buildah available in RHEL 7.6 and RHEL 8 Beta

89 pointsby siddharthgoel88over 6 years ago

6 comments

throw2016over 6 years ago
This just runs full circle back to the LXC project which Docker &#x27;forked&#x27; without attribution in 2013. Run unprivileged , runs daemon less, support layers, advanced networking and more important a standard OS environment.<p>The whole community around containers is not about the technology or understanding how to use them efficiently but who is marketing it and how many layers of complexity and buzzwords can be added on top. A bash script to build containers thus becomes &#x27;declarative&#x27; and running a copy of a container becomes &#x27;immutable&#x27;.<p>A non standard OS environment, single process environments, the uncontrolled use of layers, ephemeral storage all add dubious layers of complexity to containers for questionable benefit and increase management overhead and fragility at the base of the your stack. Now 5 years later its back to LXC but &#x27;reinvented&#x27; by Redhat. So we get another round of hype to reveal the inadequacies that should have been known 5 years ago but throwing no more light on the core issues lest users get wind its just the LXC project in new clothes.
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andorover 6 years ago
The post links to &quot;Podman - The next generation of Linux container tools&quot; (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developers.redhat.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;podman-next-generation-linux-container-tools&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developers.redhat.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;podman-next-generatio...</a>), in which the author notes that Docker <i>&quot;requires anyone who wants to build a container image to have root access. That can create security risks&quot;</i>.<p>I&#x27;m extrapolating that an advantage of Podman is that it should not require root permissions. But almost every call to podman in the article involves sudo. Can anyone clarify?
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jamp897over 6 years ago
It would be nice if this was one tool, rather than two overlapping tools with some incompatiblies between them.
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tirumaraiselvanover 6 years ago
Does Buildah build images in a completely unprivileged environment? There are other tools like Kaniko which have few gotchas like although they don&#x27;t need docker daemon but they still need ROOT access which does not make it truly secure.
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fulafelover 6 years ago
Is there a connection between the RH stack and Podman, would it just work on Ubuntu, Debian or even OS X&#x2F;WSL?
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tandavover 6 years ago
Docker R.I.P ?
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