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Ask HN: Would you hire a felon?

11 pointsby melonbarover 6 years ago
I have posted a few times before regarding this topic but in short I have a few felonies for playing with bitcoins and drugs while in college. I have a job as a full-stack JavaScript dev (just launched a new Gatsby site last week, I <3 netlify) and am a founder in a startup that counts CocaCola as a client (in negotiations with a few more Fortune 500 companies as well). I love to code more than just about anything else in life (aside from perhaps naps and nachos). It legit saved my life from a terrible addiction. I have been out of trouble for six years now, I got my life in order, and am in a great mental space. Yet, I want to get remote work while I continue my own projects. I am a competent developer who can make it past interviews and code challenges alike. Yet no one will hire. I usually get to the end and am told I am a top candidate. But at whatever point I reveal my past, I immediately get 'waitlisted'. Honestly, I am just curious. Would you ever consider hiring someone such as myself? Any advice how I can find those who would? What are some creative ways that I could put myself out there and prove myself? Thanks a bunch for any advice, it means a lot.

10 comments

Eridrusover 6 years ago
I would, particularly since drugs&#x2F;bitcoin seem like pretty low level offences. But I work at a large company and have no control over that now.<p>One thing I have heard is that big companies often care whether you have a record from the last 5-7 years, so as the conviction is further in your past you may find that it gets at least somewhat easier. Even the &quot;Fair Chance Ordinance&quot; mentioned in this thread only applies to convictions older than 7 years.<p>I don&#x27;t think there is any creative way to hack this problem, since it is a trust problem, and remote work may make that trust piece even harder.
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masonicover 6 years ago
I think name-dropping clients is inappropriate in this kind of context. (That&#x27;s unrelated to anyone&#x27;s criminal record.)
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anonyfelonover 6 years ago
melonbar: see my post about this very thing... <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=18704252" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=18704252</a><p>I&#x27;m in much the same boat. I feel like for this to seriously change, the laws have to change. That&#x27;s no small feat.<p>As long as there are for-profit prisons, there&#x27;s little&#x2F;no incentive for criminal laws to change.<p>San Francisco has the &quot;Fair Chance Ordinance&quot;, but you actually have to <i>LIVE</i> there for it to apply to you.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sfgov.org&#x2F;olse&#x2F;fair-chance-ordinance-fco" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sfgov.org&#x2F;olse&#x2F;fair-chance-ordinance-fco</a><p>I have reached out to you via email, btw. It was back in November. I haven&#x27;t spoken about that stuff publicly, hence the throwaway account. :&#x2F;
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inceptivecssover 6 years ago
Something important that might be in play is the company insurance policies. If the insurance company comes back and says, &quot;No, we won&#x27;t cover any activities that this felon does, you&#x27;re taking on that risk yourself&quot;, the employer isn&#x27;t going to hire you.<p>Typically this comes up where you&#x27;re hiring someone for a similar (or the same) sort of work that they got in trouble for.<p>The same thing will happen if you lie on your employment application; the instant that the employer finds out you lied, they <i>have</i> to fire you or their insurance will stop covering anything you do.<p>It&#x27;s possible that insurance is at play, or that their HR department is being overzealous about avoiding risk to the company via that method.
Gustomaximusover 6 years ago
&gt; I have a few felonies for playing with bitcoins<p>What is the charge. It wasn&#x27;t &#x27;playing with bitcoins&#x27;. Was it fraud? If so, I would be hesitant to hire someone, especially if they are coding in areas where money or other high security was required. I believe while everyone makes mistakes, morals tend to stay the same. So for me I would consider if a charge was a mistake anyone could make, or someone of dubious morals.<p>Side question: are you allowed to ask for a potential employees charge sheet? If you just see &#x27;yes&#x27; to criminal record you may hesitate to hire someone. If you see what they did you can see if it was recent, many, types of offences and you may be more reasonable based on the facts.
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smt88over 6 years ago
Why are you looking for a job if a company you founded has Coca Cola as a client?
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gmsover 6 years ago
Where are the companies that reject you? In San Francisco many companies would never even ask. I certainly wouldn&#x27;t mind. No one should be eternally damned for a mistake made in college.
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wincyover 6 years ago
I’d hire you. But I don’t have a company. You need to find a place where the person interviewing you is the person who has the final say in hiring you. Which isn’t most places.
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Khelavasterover 6 years ago
Realistically, it depends on the kind and quantity of drugs.
melonbarover 6 years ago
Also, if anyone has any good suggestions for sites similar to weworkremotely I would love to hear about them :D