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Google, Facebook don’t innovate

34 pointsby morbidkkover 14 years ago

8 comments

donallover 14 years ago
I think Google still innovate in that, as other commenters have noted, they're creating some interesting file system and database solutions. However, these (among others) are infrastructural contributions to the backend. I think the article is talking about innovation from the average consumer's perspective.<p>I remember speaking to a friend of mine when Google released Wave. He said Wave was the first real home-grown "product" since GMail and it was his opinion that it was developed in Australia because the office there was a kind of skunkworks plant with little bureaucratic oversight compared to the other Google offices around the world (whether this is true, I don't know). He said Google were at the stage where they are big enough for middle management to stifle real innovation because the individual managers don't need to take the kind of risk required with greenlighting a project like Wave (and look how that turned out!).<p>To Google, buying an early-stage startup is a cost-effective way of outsourcing the risk-taking and that kind of acquisition is the closest they can now get to serious innovation and staying competitive.
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fauigerzigerkover 14 years ago
The Go language, Chrome OS, the recently announced redesign of the backend storage architecture that's supposed to replace MapReduce for some tasks. These are the things that I remember off the top of my head without going through the stuff they keep announcing all the time.<p>[Edit:] Things like native client and V8 might also be worth mentioning.
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Goladusover 14 years ago
So John Doerr, a venture capitalist, "lost" an impromtu argument at a Web 2.0 Summit and this is supposed to mean that Google and Facebook don't innovate?<p>This is a really weak submission.
dansingermanover 14 years ago
Yeah, the whole self-driving car thing was rubbish wasn't it?
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sabalabaover 14 years ago
How about that Chrome, with multi-process tabs + Google Apps, is really a stealth web operating system?<p>Its surprising that wasn't mentioned...
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takruppover 14 years ago
Wasn't Google planning (or had in beta?) a voice service before buying Grandcentral? It just seems that when you get to the size of Google, if you see a market that you want to get into and that has an easy to acquire, quality product currently being created, why not buy it? You get the double bonus of a working product and some talent.<p>Bad day for Doerr. Yikes.
fairlyoddover 14 years ago
Facebook Platform, Graph API, Like Button, Social Applications - a few truly transformative things that have come out of facebook in the past few years. Saying facebook doesn't innovate is rubbish. Though they do tend to borrow an idea here and there, they have sometimes left it better than they found it (exceptions of Quora and 4sq)
chopsueyarover 14 years ago
What about the mobile OS developed by Facebook on all these smartphones?
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