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A New Golden Age for Computer Architecture

53 pointsby wheresvic1about 6 years ago

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gbrown_about 6 years ago
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bem94about 6 years ago
There is <i>so</i> much to unpack in this article. I pick this claim: That RISC-V is a simple(r) architecture and therefore meaningfully easier to verify[0].<p>The base RISC-V ISA is indeed very small. However, to compete with ARM&#x2F;MIPS&#x2F;x86 usefully as an application core, one must include many standard extensions. All of which add comparable complexity to the ARM&#x2F;MIPS feature which they ape. It feels wrong to assert then without some serious qualification that RISC-V is simpler or easier to verify. A RISC-V core is no more or less complex to verify than a comparably featured ARM&#x2F;MIPS core.<p>That said, and open ISA like RISC-V can really lead the way in terms of shared verification IP. <i>That</i> is the benefit to an open ISA, not it&#x27;s simplicity, but the fact that it becomes worthwhile for people to share their verification infrastructure. Unfortunately, I haven&#x27;t seen much of this yet. riscv-formal is amazing, and the riscv-compliance suites are getting better, but proper constrained random stimulus generation and coverage collecton? Not yet, at least, not out there in the open source world. I really wish that Western Digital had included their verification infrastructure when they open sourced Swerv [1].<p>Really enjoyed the article otherwise!<p>0 - A reasonable person might disagree this claim is being so explicitly made, but that&#x27;s what I took from it.<p>1 - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;westerndigitalcorporation&#x2F;swerv_eh1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;westerndigitalcorporation&#x2F;swerv_eh1</a>
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gumbyabout 6 years ago
&gt; The limit of TDP led directly to the era of &quot;dark silicon,&quot; whereby processors would slow on the clock rate and turn off idle cores to prevent overheating.<p>We used to do this in the 1990s with PHS cell phones in Japan: you certainly didn&#x27;t need to listen to the microphone until a call was actually connected, and even then the caller might listen and not talk, so after connection you&#x27;d listen to the microphone but still not start up the voice compression chips until the noise got above a threshold (so a bit of the moshi moshi would get cut off -- no big deal).
slurpeedogabout 6 years ago
Golden age has been over long ago.