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Why We Don't Like Our Underground House

29 pointsby wlkrabout 6 years ago

8 comments

GauntletWizardabout 6 years ago
If I ever build a house, I&#x27;m going to get oversized crawlspaces, cable ducts... Anything I can find to make maintenance easier. Maintenance on houses is the hardest thing we don&#x27;t talk about. I wonder if we might be better served with Japan&#x27;s culture of rebuilding constantly, because maintenance is a chore and painful.<p>I also wish houses came with an owners manual and regular check-up tooling - I&#x27;d love to have a better idea of what I&#x27;m dealing with and something to reference about what I&#x27;ve forgotten.
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jaclazabout 6 years ago
If I may, in a nutshell a badly built house is bad.<p>To this you add ineffective, amateurish or no repairs and maintenance and you have the perfect disaster.<p>It is perfectly possible to build a long lasting, maintainable, underground house, but you won&#x27;t have it &quot;cheap&quot;, expect the costs to be between 150% and 180% (if not more) of the &quot;normal&quot; costs for a comparable sized house built with whatever building technique is common in your area (bricks&#x2F;concrete&#x2F;etc.).<p>Mould is almost unavoidable in <i>any</i> (not only underground) houses with a high level of energy efficiency (in Europe those that would be classified B or A and higher, even if in my experience issues start happening at the D or C class) unless a proper (and properly calculated and maintained) mechanical ventilation system is installed.<p>Though you may save over the years something in heating&#x2F;cooling costs, it is simply (usually) not worth it.
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nickelcitymarioabout 6 years ago
Most of the problems mentioned could easily apply to any given basement.<p>It really does sound like a poorly built house. I&#x27;m not an expert by any means, but flooding, seepage, pests, cracks, and mold are all extremely common basement problems. Of course, their impact on your quality of life is magnified when your whole house is effectively a basement, but it&#x27;s still normal stuff.
russhabout 6 years ago
&quot;Who would have thought to buy flood insurance four a house high upon a hillside?&quot;<p>Anyone buying a underground house, I would guess.<p>&quot;When we first moved in, we ran the electric system for two weeks, nearly froze off our tail feathers, and paid double what we had been paying for natural gas heat in our previous home of 1,000 sq. ft.&quot;<p>Gadzooks a 2,500 sq. ft home with 14 foot domed ceilings cost double to heat then a 1,000 sq. ft home... The horror!
sunstoneabout 6 years ago
If you&#x27;re going underground hire an engineer and&#x2F;or architect to save you some of the long term pain.
emmelaichabout 6 years ago
I&#x27;ve never lived in a house or worked in a building that did not have water problems.<p>And I&#x27;ve lived in $1m+ houses and $100m+ work buildings.<p>There&#x27;s no way you&#x27;d get me in an underground house. Except maybe in Coober Pedy.
ListeningPieabout 6 years ago
This is a good source of inspiration for a life of a hobbit fan fiction.
expopinionsabout 6 years ago
I think that primarily, as others have said, we need sunlight. However, one can introduce sunlight into an underground structure with various skylights, including those that use mirrors to bring the light just about anywhere underground.<p>It’s mostly the excavation, drainage, and more robust structural requirements that increase the cost of construction of an underground house to a point where it outweighs the benefits of such a house. One would want to locate any underground structure on a site that is well above the water table, and well above a flood zone - so again, the cost of locating such a plot of land increases the difficulty and expense of building such a home.<p>However, I think that there are advantages to residences that are - half-buried. In other words, built into a hill on a slope. The advantages to such a house would be significant if it were sited correctly with a well-engineered drainage system. For example, in the Northern hemisphere the energy savings of a house on a slope with a glass curtain wall facing south would significantly reduce heating and cooling requirements regardless of latitude. Temperatures within the structure would be pretty constant year round. In winter, when the sun recedes to the south and stays lower to the horizon, sun would shine in, and warm, the house for a major portion of the day. In the summer as the sun rises more to the East and is higher in the sky, the earth surrounding the house except for its south-facing wall would insulate the house from radiant heat, and the cooler temperature of the earth would also keep the house from warming up much.<p>Our summer house in New Jersey faces South, and that long side of the house is windows the entire length of the house, and about half of the surface area of that wall. In winter, on a sunny and below freezing day, the temperature inside that long room can get as high as 80 degrees F (27 C). Midday the furnace doesn’t come on at all (unless it’s a very windy day). The basement is at ground level on the south side, completely underground on the north side. The basement maintains a pretty steady temperature year-round. Had this house been built in the past 20 years rather than 60+ year ago it would have had solar panels running fans to use the basement coolness to air condition the house on the (relatively few) hot days in summer, and distribute the excess heat in winter throughout the house. As it is, it’s an extremely energy-efficient structure.