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European Parliament set to end EU-wide daylight savings

315 pointsby mattjaynesover 6 years ago

23 comments

sambuciniover 6 years ago
I work in energy trading in Europe and for us this is a blessing. Of course we store our time series TZ aware, but many less professional small utilities or other market participants (incl. Grid operators) who e.g. Order power on hourly resolution with tz-unaware excel spreadsheets via email are a nightmare as each participants treatment of double or missing hours is different and requires manual processing.
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thomasedwardsover 6 years ago
So many people, including a lot of comments here, seem to think that it’s designed around the winter. It’s not, it’s to move an hour of sunlight from the start of the day (say, 4am) to the end of the day (say, 9pm) so that you use less energy in the summer (hence the ‘savings’), and then you can enjoy that rather than being asleep.<p>Moving to summer time year-round means that the mornings in the winter will be darker. I like having a bit of daylight in the mornings in the winter, and I’ll miss it when it’s gone. As I’m sure a lot of people will when they realise that getting ‘rid’ of it makes the winter worse, not the summer better.
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BurritoAlPastorover 6 years ago
The graphic would seem to indicate that the UK and Portugal observe a time zone of Coordinated Universal Time (UTC±0). This is nonsense, of course; UTC is not a time zone. I believe the UK observes GMT (UTC±0) and Portugal uses Western European Time (UTC±0).<p>It&#x27;s also worth looking up the story of why Coordinated Universal Time is abbreviated UTC and not CUT, if you haven&#x27;t heard it. Time zones are great.
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diminishover 6 years ago
The `daylight saving` purpose is intriguing.<p>I&#x27;m very curious why people long time ago, decided to change clocks, instead of work&#x2F;school start and finish times. Like we start in April at 8:00 am, and in November, at 9:00.
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spiderfarmerover 6 years ago
Lets also try and spread working times from (mostly) 9-5 to 6-2, 7-3, 8-4, 9-5 and 10-6 so we can solve the traffic congestion problem, all while enabling people to work when they work best.
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hcnewsover 6 years ago
Someday US will get this too! Right after the metric system.<p>Seriously speaking: I wish US gets rid of the clock change (one way or the other).
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lshover 6 years ago
&gt; mandated EU-wide summer time has only existed since 2002<p>and this repeal only repeals the mandatory adherence to daylight savings. Their next problem is consistency and coordination of the removal of DST among member states. And the Germans seem to be dominating the vote as well, so the really hard work in negotiating with others to remove their DST is the real barrier.
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bnegreveover 6 years ago
Frankly, I like daylight savings. It contributes to reduce the difference between the sun time and my time.<p>I wake up more or less when the sun raises and then go to work. Now if I keep doing that I&#x27;m going to show up either too late in the winter or too early in the summer.
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Tharkunover 6 years ago
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Getting rid of DST sounds like a good thing. Not messing time is patently good. But a bunch of countries on the western side of the EU ought to be on GMT instead of GMT+1. And appparently a majority of people want to make that worse, by making a permanent switch to GMT+2.<p>This will make for fun winters, with the sun rising long after rush hour. This is stupid.
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henrikschroderover 6 years ago
In before &quot;Let&#x27;s all switch to UTC to solve this problem once and for all!&quot;<p>Anyway, it&#x27;s so weird to me that daylight savings is such a new concept, it didn&#x27;t exist where I was born when I was born, but it feels like a thing that ought to have existed for a hundred years at least.<p>And yet, despite it being so new, people are actually defending it? Mindboggling.
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kzrdudeover 6 years ago
I really hope this doesn&#x27;t happen. I don&#x27;t want to have darker mornings than they already are. Daylight in the morning is important to wake you up and to adjust your circadian rhythm.
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conradfrover 6 years ago
I have a side project that displays French radios&#x27; schedules that is basically wrong two days per year because of DST so I guess thanks the EU for fixing it.<p>As a citizen though I don&#x27;t really have an opinion, except that I want the longest sun possible during the summer evenings ...
ggmover 6 years ago
A change which may be rational closer to the equator, but which makes less sense in Edinburgh or further north surely?
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freecodyxover 6 years ago
Here in Morocco, it was made permanent starting this year, so instead of being GMT we are GMT+1 all year round,<p>Except, this decision was made brutally without any prior discussion or vote,
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CalRobertover 6 years ago
Whatever we do I hope it syncs with the US, because 9 AM SF&#x2F;5 PM Dublin meetings are a LOT nicer than 8AM SF&#x2F;5PM Dublin or 9 AM SF&#x2F;6PM Dublin
widforssover 6 years ago
Is the full colorization of Cyprus a result of a political statement or just ignorance?
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hFAUSTover 6 years ago
Most of the people that I hear complaining about it are old people and by that I mean people who are retired and time only tells them if it&#x27;s the time for their favorite TV drama or medicine. IMHO daylight saving time helps both mentally (less gloomy dark winter) and energy-wise.
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apexalphaover 6 years ago
Time for NL to detach from Germany then if they go to permanent summertime. That time is the natural time for St Petersburg. It&#x27;ll be weird to have different time between us but otherwise it&#x27;s just too off for us.
ptahover 6 years ago
UK&#x27;s insistence on keeping daylight savings is disappointing to say the least
themistokl1kover 6 years ago
I FEEL BAD FOR YOU TIME LIB MAINTAINERS
Ivover 6 years ago
Finally!<p>Let more people see the light!
tumetab1over 6 years ago
Title improvement suggestion: EU Parliament set to end EU-wide daylight savings<p>IMHO, EU institutions should always be referred as such instead as related to a continent, i.e., &quot;EU Parliament&quot; is more correct than &quot;European Parliament&quot;
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_Microftover 6 years ago
All of that because of a stupid survey in which the ones who wanted to abolish daylight saving time were overrepresented because it gave them a platform while the majority who doesn&#x27;t, didn&#x27;t bother to make themselves heard.<p>That&#x27;s not quite <i>Brexit-level</i> but maybe <i>Swiss immigration referendum</i>-stupidity.
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