Amazing to me the knee jerk response from most people is to criticize this company. Yes they have issues (as does literally every brand/company), but on the whole aren't we glad people are leading the charge towards electric vehicles? They've sped up the advent of electric vehicles by at least 5 years, possibly more like 10.<p>Looking forward to seeing this company continue to thrive.
I gotta give it to them, it's insane how fast they're moving.<p>In less than a decade they've gone from one highly niche electric supercar to a luxury sedan, a luxury SUV, a mid-range sedan, and a mid-range SUV.<p>And in sales they're crushing competition that have been building cars for literally a hundred years.<p>So excited for the zero-exhaust future.
<i>Model Y will have Full Self-Driving capability, enabling automatic driving on city streets and highways pending regulatory approval, as well as the ability to come find you anywhere in a parking lot.</i><p>Pending regulatory approval, and also they need figure out how to make it work first.<p>Off the top of my head I remember similar claims being made about the summoning feature of the model S. Has it lived up to the marketing promises?
I was a bit shocked at the price being as low. They're putting in a Supercharger two miles away. Before today I appreciated what Musk was doing but never considered getting a Tesla. As of tonight I am reconsidering. My only unknown right now is going to be service.
It is hard to describe exactly the niches they are trying to fill with the designs. I don't see the Y suddenly appealing to someone who didn't already want an X or Y or 3. The differences between models borders on what other companies would consider trim levels.<p>They are only cannibalizing the same market, as opposed to producing a pickup or a hatchback or a van on the same chassis. Are they limited by tech or capital? Or are they really attached to an idea of what a perfect car is and have trouble extending the vision?
Base model prices including destination charges without gas savings discounted.<p>Tesla Model 3 - $31450 right now after CA + Fed rebate<p>Tesla Model Y - $48200 likely no rebate available at release<p>Tesla Model Y premium over 3 = $16,750<p>Keep in mind the Model Y also includes the premium interior features which cost an additional $3500 to get by upgrading to the Model 3 mid range, bringing the premium over the 3 to $13,250. The Model Y also gets 80 miles of additional range over the base Model 3.
“Full self-driving capabilities”<p>One of the items listed is your car finding you in a parking lot. I gotta day... I really don’t want to get hit by a self-driving Tesla in a parking lot.<p>Having experienced some of the auto-pilot issues first hand... I have serious doubts about this one.
Excited, a Tesla Model 3-like SUV at a 10% premium sounds like my perfect car. As nice as the Model X is, it's prohibitively expensive and I'm not a fan of the falcon wing doors so I'm hoping the Model Y hits all the sweet spots.
The website is up: <a href="https://www.tesla.com/modely" rel="nofollow">https://www.tesla.com/modely</a><p>300 mile range, seats 7, looks a lot like a model 3 (so I guess kind of like a Mercedes GLC?)<p>$51,000 for the all-wheel-drive version, although Tesla is notorious for playing games with their pricing...
Snow-land wants to know: Front-wheel drive, ever?<p>I'm not driving rear-only, ever. Did that once, not again.<p>I'm not paying another $11,000 to get the dual-motor version when all I care about is the front. That's a whole 'nother car worth of money.<p>Keep on building California cars, Elon. I'll buy one as soon as it fits both my budget and my climate. Some models fit one or the other, but nothing does both.
In the hope to get standard unit, I pretended to be german. <a href="https://www.tesla.com/de_DE/modely?redirect=no" rel="nofollow">https://www.tesla.com/de_DE/modely?redirect=no</a><p>Tells me 65 cuft cargo, 540 km range.<p>I asked wolfram alpha what 65 cuft meant. I now know that it is 1/10 the volume of a gray whale. Or 1841 L.<p>Compared to the american version (66cuft, 300mi), the german has a marginally smaller cargo volume but a far greater range (480 km vs 540 km)
This is the electric car I’ve been waiting for. We’re a family of 6 and for the longest time the Model X or some huge hybrids were our only options. This is half the price of an X. I can afford it. Bring on the 7 seat version... in Europe... (starts waiting).
Overlay of the Model 3 vs Model Y:<p><a href="https://twitter.com/TeslaCharts/status/1106412707211866112" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/TeslaCharts/status/1106412707211866112</a>
He just announced the prices (took a screengrab)<p>Standard Range (230miles) -> $39K (Spring 2021)<p>Long Range (300miles) -> $47K (Fall 2020)<p>Dual ($51k) Performance ($60k) (Fall 2020)
Touch screens should be banned on security [edit: safety] grounds. You need to take your eyes off the road to perform simple operations such as adjusting heating. Relying on muscle memory with physical knobs is much safer. And it's not just Tesla, it's a worrying trend for many car manufacturers.
Model Y vs Model 3 Schematics <a href="https://imgur.com/a/eVzAhEs" rel="nofollow">https://imgur.com/a/eVzAhEs</a>
Really surprised me they would make a big announcement so far in advance.<p>Surely they'll just be canabalising sales of the Model 3 while people wait for the Y.<p>Making a big announcement 1 or 2 months before availability seems far more sensible.
Will be interested to see what the standard range pricing ends up being, they would really be on to something if they could make a version of this that is closer to Model 3 pricing. It seemed weird to me that when other car makers are abandoning the sedan style entirely that Tesla would pick it for it's stab at a more affordable model. As a city dweller that still needs to tote around kids / pets / supplies a hatchback / crossover is a great combo of utility and not being ungodly large.
I'd like to think this is going to be a smash hit for Tesla, propelling us into an electric car future.<p>But I really have fears it's a last-ditch effort to raise operating capital, at $2.5k a pop.<p>Time will tell.
I am a fan of electric cars but why no one seems to care about SW and HW inside, especially for always-on, always-connected HW? I've heard they had to SSH into customers machines to fix something. And that one day they kept Kubernetes cluster insecure and let someone run mining on it. I won't trust the software - I need a device where I can at least set up the firewall. But an open firmware would be even better. But it won't happen because of how these industries work. That is a pity because it's up to you how you secure your home pc. But it's up to manufacturer to secure your connected devices and they are not always doing maximum. Over time, there will be many connected cars and IoT devices with outdated, broken, wrongly-configured firmware (look at routers nowadays). And don't tell me you can remotely control driving servos in such cars. Because if you can, a hacker can become a serial killer or a hitman soon...
So they thought before being able to produce the other models in a reliable way, why not release yet another model?! Great idea publicity wise, I doubt that this can be sustainable in the long term though. Why not focusing on getting one thing right?
I don't get why Teslas have bonnets! The Y even has a flat panel where the radiator traditionally is! They are trying to look like a conventional car from the distance!<p>I remember when the first Renault Espaces turned up. Suddenly a car without a bonnet! (Okay, technically, perhaps it wasn't the first. But it was the first different-looking car to suddenly be everywhere that I remember!) That was revolutionary and different.<p>Its a pity that Tesla feel the public need them to disguise their cars. I want an electric car which can seat 6 but on a normal 4-person footprint. I want a people-carrier!
Did the announcement say whether the first Y's would be built in Fremont or Nevada? In January Elon said "most likely" Nevada, did that get updated?<p>That Nov 2020 date is a lot firmer if Fremont than Nevada, which is the main reason I'm asking.<p>I would have expected the first line to be set up in Fremont -- that's where they have the experienced assemblers. And while that would slow production of the 3, it would also allow them to adjust the ASP up towards the more profitable models.
Is it supposed to be a midway point between Model 3 and Model X? Or is it supposed to be the cheaper version of Model X? I can't tell exactly where it fits into the lineup since "midsize SUV" can mean a lot of different things and is pretty vague (especially since the model X is considered a "compact crossover SUV" per wikipedia).
I am not a fan of Tesla nor electric cars. The future of transportation is not electric, (please get yourself out of Elon’s reality distortion field) it’s Hydrogen- one of the most abundant elements in the universe. Once the challenges are solved, we will use saltwater as a fuel. (Water aka H2O has 2 hydrogen molecules and 1 oxygen molecule, the salt can be used as a catalyzer in hydrogen extraction.
The cheapest 5-seat Model Y is $51k, 7-seat is $54k. I bought a 2018 Acura MDX (7 seats) with 3k miles for $42.3k. At $3 per a gallon of premium gasoline and $60 for each oil change, I think I'll spend $11.7k in about 3-4 years. So, the 7-seat Model Y sounds better, doesn't it?
I am surprised that the cost is as low as it is!<p>I am debating whether to go the used EV route and get a 3 year old Nissan Leaf at $13,000 or a new Tesla at $30,000, but with over double the range...
Is there anyplace on the site that gives an overview of each model and how they're different? After seeing the page in the link I'm still left wondering what's new.
This reminds me of my Mazda 5, which is a "micro-van" in the US. They don't sell them in the US anymore, but a small vehicle with a 3rd row.
Is it possible to buy a version without self-driving capabilities? Personally just having a nice EV would be great, especially if that reduces the cost by 5-10k.
So I skimmed the page, am I right that TL;DR is:<p>1. This is to the model 3 what the x is to the model s.<p>2. Expect to pay around model 3 price point + 25%.<p>3. Range for high end models is further than high end model 3's.<p>Missing anything important?
Here is the direct, unlisted YouTube link: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ydPFR6xb3I" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ydPFR6xb3I</a>
Here's the unveil (over an hour into the video): <a href="https://youtu.be/3ydPFR6xb3I?t=4775" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/3ydPFR6xb3I?t=4775</a>