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Can MIPS Leapfrog RISC-V?

84 pointsby Cieplakabout 6 years ago

11 comments

nickikabout 6 years ago
I don&#x27;t think it will. This is clearly a totally reactionary move of a company that has been absolutely trounced in the commercial market by ARM and saw the writing on the wall that once RISC-V established itself the few gaps they lived in would be eventually replaced.<p>This, &#x27;throw it over the wall&#x27; style open sourcing has worked before, Docker being an example.<p>The problem is their current &#x27;open&#x27; strategy is probably not open and dynamic enough to compete with RISC-V. And the consumers that don&#x27;t care still don&#x27;t have much reason to use it over ARM.<p>Maybe they can find a gap but I don&#x27;t think they have a long term growth curve.
tntnabout 6 years ago
Genuine question related to riscv: what is the value of a standard when a majority of it is part of optional extensions? Doesn&#x27;t that make riscv a ton of distinct standards, marketed as one?<p>RV32I is nothing close to RV64IMAFDQCPBS. It seems like all the fragmentation standards are made to avoid packaged up as a &quot;standard&quot; to make sure everything under the sun can use risc-v.<p>(see also usb-c)
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baybal2about 6 years ago
&gt; Can MIPS Leapfrog RISC-V?<p>Not if the company will continue being run by the legal department. From industry insiders, I heard people having exchanges with them like &quot;you are gonna fail, thus we are not gonna be working with you...&quot;<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=18701898" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=18701898</a>
twicabout 6 years ago
How much does open-source hardware really matter? It sounds really cool, and i hope it takes off. But is this really where the industry is going, or is this a flash in the pan that gets a lot of attention from people like us?
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jononorabout 6 years ago
Too little too late probably. But openness and competition is good!
saagarjhaabout 6 years ago
&gt; MIPS’ target customers will include Arm licensees looking for alternatives.<p>&gt; MIPS’ advantages over competitors are many. Its instruction sets already have extensions such as SIMD (single instruction, multiple data) and DSP.<p>But…ARM has those things?
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growlistabout 6 years ago
I&#x27;d really like to some new OS efforts to go along with new chips. Does it really have to be *nix on everything?
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JoachimSabout 6 years ago
Here is some more info about the MIPS Open community MIPS is trying to establish:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mips.com&#x2F;mipsopen&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mips.com&#x2F;mipsopen&#x2F;</a><p>Based on the FAQ, older MIPS architectures, for example Release 5 is not included, only Release 6. I don&#x27;t see any info about what the exact license they plan to use.
fit2ruleabout 6 years ago
Give me a big fat MIPS pizza box for the 21st Century, and I&#x27;m in. Give me a pocketable mobile MIPS device, and I&#x27;m in as well.<p>As long as they both work together as platforms.
snvzzabout 6 years ago
&gt;Swift added, “The 30+ year legacy of MIPS architecture should mean something. It’s a value.”<p>This reads so desperate. &quot;should mean something&quot; betrays they&#x27;re not even sure themselves.
mtgxabout 6 years ago
The general rule to this type of question titles is that the answer is NO, right?
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