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Show HN: Baxx – Unix-friendly backup service

424 pointsby zulganabout 6 years ago

36 comments

bloopernovaabout 6 years ago
(Alternative product recommendation, please downvote&#x2F;remove if you feel that isn&#x27;t appropriate)<p>For Unix&#x2F;Linux backups, may I suggest Borg Backup? It encrypts and does dedupe astonishingly well. It also works over SSH incredibly fast, and restores are via a mounted FUSE filesystem so they&#x27;re easy to pick and choose what you need. It prunes really well too, and is a single executable so it&#x27;s easy to distribute via Ansible&#x2F;Puppet&#x2F;etc. I&#x27;ve been using it for several years and it hasn&#x27;t failed me yet.<p>If y&#x27;all want to laugh at my bash scripting skills, I have a backup script that sends backup status to a Zabbix monitor server at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gist.github.com&#x2F;anthonyclarka2&#x2F;cef41d201dd5b890dae6786010531aeb" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gist.github.com&#x2F;anthonyclarka2&#x2F;cef41d201dd5b890dae67...</a> (I&#x27;d appreciate improvements to that script if anyone wants to critique)
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sanderjdabout 6 years ago
This is really neat. I really love the idea and the presentation.<p>I would not trust my backups to your service <i>yet</i>, just because of the &quot;this is a prototype&quot; language. My immediate thought is, &quot;this seems great, I&#x27;ll have to come back and check it out once it&#x27;s more of a real business&quot;. But therein lies the rub, I think: what will drive me back to check it out later? There doesn&#x27;t seem to be a mailing list to sign up for. Maybe you&#x27;ll hit the front page of HN with a full launch later, and I&#x27;ll see it that way, which would be great, but maybe not!<p>In any case, nice work!
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lazyantabout 6 years ago
Nobody has commented on what jumped at me as a great feature: detecting if the backup seems bad.<p><pre><code> * get notified if the file is too small * get notified if the file is too old</code></pre>
cypharabout 6 years ago
I have a feeling rsync.net is far more Unix-friendly as a backup service (it&#x27;s basically a Unix shell provider with automated ZFS snapshots). I do think the website has a neat aesthetic though, and it is cute you can register over SSH (not that this is practically advantageous over a website-based registration -- registration is a one-time operation).<p>The repo on GitHub doesn&#x27;t have a license AFAICS.
Topgamer7about 6 years ago
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samatabout 6 years ago
Some very basic html with no css would be much easier to read than parsing markdown in my head. Machines should do machine work, not people.<p>Edit: still love idea and execution, thanks for sharing!
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ebg13about 6 years ago
&gt; <i>Trial 1 Month 0.1E</i><p>&gt; <i>Subscription: 5E per Month</i><p>&gt; ...<p>&gt; <i>I decided to charge 5$ (0.1$ trial)</i><p>So which is it? $ or E? And is E supposed to be €? Also, in English the currency marker goes to the left of the number.
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UI_at_80x24about 6 years ago
I want to thank-you for using a good-name for your service.<p>Too many times some developer will pick a common word to launch their service&#x2F;product thus making it impossible to search for it.<p>Your name (a) is a single syllable<p>(b) almost hints at what it does in the name (Baxxup?)<p>(c) is not easily confused with other products<p>(d) Your closest competitor from a google SEO standpoint is a tanning salon (single word google)<p>Great job! I wish I was creative like that. Usually my crap looks like: sbs (server backup script) Works for me but my co-workers hate me.
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xaybeyabout 6 years ago
For some reason there&#x27;s a lot of negativity in this thread. I thought the txt file was really cool, signed up immediately, and have been having a lot of fun with the interface. I don&#x27;t remember the last time I found registering for a SASS product to be <i>fun</i>.
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StreamBrightabout 6 years ago
How is this comparing to Tarsnap?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.tarsnap.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.tarsnap.com&#x2F;</a>
marssaxmanabout 6 years ago
I like this.<p>Another down-to-earth, unix-oriented, fair-deal style &quot;cloud&quot; service worth investigating is rsync.net. I&#x27;ve been using it to sync data between my devices, and I like the way it leaves the user in control.<p>I have not tried Baxx yet, but it seems to be a project in a similar spirit, and I am happy to see more investment in that kind of future.
swlkrabout 6 years ago
This is really cool. The aesthetic is amazing. This really speaks to the hacker in me, the no-website thing is a really inventive way to stand out from other backup services.<p>Great execution!
billpgabout 6 years ago
If there&#x27;s no website, what am I looking at when I follow the link?
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zulganabout 6 years ago
author here: I am going to my daughter&#x27;s birthday, so I wont reply to comments for a while, but if anyone runs into trouble please send an email to jack@baxx.dev<p>thanks a lot for the feedback, much appreciated!
marceloneilabout 6 years ago
May I suggest Kimsufi along with Hetzner for if you scale up? Its similar pricing and they have some NA locations (although less storage). I&#x27;ve had good experiences with them.
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dsr_about 6 years ago
My key objection is that it doesn&#x27;t offer any additional value: if you are the sort of customer who would do this, you are also the sort of customer who would implement the same chain of commands to backup to a virtual machine that you owned, eliminating the attractiveness of baxx.dev as a aggregated target.<p>What additional value can you add?
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escaperabout 6 years ago
I get that it&#x27;s probably &quot;trendy&quot; to say you don&#x27;t have or need a website but with it being so easy to create a static page, I&#x27;m failing to understand why you wouldn&#x27;t just do that, which is already the bare minimum, if you care about your project and want to sell it?
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arendtioabout 6 years ago
Two reasons why I do not want to use the service in its current state (meant as constructive criticism):<p>1. If I would send my backups to some SASS there is no way I would do that without encryption.<p>2. I like to backup my filesystem and not just the files in it (to make sure I&#x27;ve got everything and make restoring easy). Currently, I just dd my block devices, but I am sure that could be optimized to not upload a complete image every time.<p>Sure, I could solve those two problems myself, but then I could also use AWS S3&#x2F;Backblaze ;-)
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presto8about 6 years ago
Love the idea and implementation! However I have two main questions&#x2F;concerns that might prevent me from being a customer:<p>Cost. Currently I pay $10&#x2F;month to CrashPlan to store 2TB a month. I think your plan is to simply pass through the glacier price, but even that would be much higher cost I think?<p>Large files. Because I only have finite monthly bandwidth and a limited upload speed, it would be good to do incremental backup of large binaries, only changing the parts that changed.
alexandernstabout 6 years ago
As cool as this could be, this service is not passing any company-grade backup quality requirements. Also, the price is a complete no. Not because 5€&#x2F;m is much, but because 5€&#x2F;m can get you hundreds of GBs of storage in AWS Glacier, with contractual guarantees about your data, how it&#x27;s managed, etc...<p>Basically, this is a toy. Use it as a toy, not as a service where you&#x27;d actually put your company files.<p>That said, good job!
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Arkanosisabout 6 years ago
I&#x27;m confused by the `find | xargs | sha256 | curl` trick… Is it even remotely as efficient as the rolling checksum of an actual rsync?
decide1000about 6 years ago
This is great. Building a company from the terminal. Good luck on your journey.<p>Don&#x27;t need a backup solution right now, but I keep it in mind.
brg1007about 6 years ago
&quot;.... 750E profit - 50% tax = 375E profit&quot;[1]. 50% Taxes in DE, nice place to do business ...<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;jackdoe&#x2F;baxx&#x2F;blob&#x2F;master&#x2F;infra-and-pricing.txt" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;jackdoe&#x2F;baxx&#x2F;blob&#x2F;master&#x2F;infra-and-pricin...</a>
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DINKDINKabout 6 years ago
Issuing invoices and paying directly in the terminal via Bitcoin&#x27;s Lightning network would be pretty cool add-on.<p>Machine to Machine payments: Say you deploy a bitcoin miner to stranded gas. It starts to mine coins and can start paying you to back up it&#x27;s data without ever needing to create a Paypal account.
helperabout 6 years ago
Registration over ssh is cute but not safe from MITM attacks. Even if the ssh key was published somewhere (which as far as I can tell it isn&#x27;t) you would be dependent on people manually adding the key to their known_hosts file which you can&#x27;t reasonably expect most people to bother with.
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Krokkuabout 6 years ago
Interesting concept to sell a shell service. I hope we will see this more in the future.
weakwireabout 6 years ago
That is a website.
alexellisukabout 6 years ago
I love the UX for this.. why haven&#x27;t we seen more of going back to UNIX principles? I&#x27;m also curious.. why and what ML do you want to add?
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antoineMoPaabout 6 years ago
Interesting! How did you integrate PayPal payment in the shell without a website?
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nik1aa5about 6 years ago
I use borgbackup to a NAS on the LAN. I then use rclone to copy the repositories to a Google Drive that happens to be unlimited because of the subscription of my previous university. :-) Luckily my account persisted when I left the uni.
Tepixabout 6 years ago
What&#x27;s a good way to encrypt filenames on the remote side?
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johnklosabout 6 years ago
Go isn&#x27;t as portable as it should be.
nzjrsabout 6 years ago
Where is this located (for GDPR purposes)?
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edooabout 6 years ago
For my home directory&#x2F;active data I use &#x27;rdiff-backup&#x27; to keep 7 days of hourly snapshots. If I screw anything up I never lose more than an hour. My bulk data gets a snapshot every 3 days due to the size&#x2F;time. All that data is already on raid1 but the extra filesystem level backup will protect from any low level disk hosings. I mirror that backup drive weekly and keep an extra copy off site. If I&#x27;m super paranoid about losing something I&#x27;ll also save it with &#x27;duplicity&#x27; to S3, although I also like remote mounting an AWS volume and using it with &#x27;EncFS&#x27;.<p>If I&#x27;m going anywhere with my laptop and want access to my data faster than internet speeds I&#x27;ll preload everything with &#x27;unison&#x27; onto the laptop and temporarily have my own Dropbox clone while mobile.<p>Using those open source tools lets me do basically the same thing as these services while keeping full control of my data.
mistrial9about 6 years ago
roach motel ?
stephenrabout 6 years ago
Calling it Unix friendly but not supporting ssh (and thus sftp&#x2F;rsync&#x2F;etc) seems like quite a weird choice, and one that’s lost you a potential customer.
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