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All officially released cables including content - WikiLeaks

118 pointsby edoover 14 years ago

11 comments

lionheartedover 14 years ago
I wonder what happens the first time that there's a credible link to someone dying as a results of Wikileaks leaking a document.<p>You know, if you keep leaking any and all classified information you can, inevitably some informant or logistics route or defensive position is going to get routed or assassinated. It's just a matter of time - while the government does some bad stuff, I'd reckon the majority of classified documents are classified for decent reasons. It's not just a bunch of wild animals running the show.<p>And when an operative or informant or ally or supply team or soldier or law enforcement officer eventually gets killed as a result of a leak, I wonder what the government's response will be.<p>Edit: Knock off the downvoting and make a reply. There's an informant in the Chinese politburo who is risking his life to protect the dissidents that the Chinese government targeted with the Google attacks. His life is at risk now. If you have <i>any</i> credible argument for why releasing <i>any</i> information related to the man, let's hear your argument. Because I think his life is at risk, and that's a bad thing. If you disagree, let's hear your reasoning of why it's okay to do that.
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dotBenover 14 years ago
I think it's interesting that Wikileaks have been 'late' on actually releasing the cables directly to the public. At the time of writing only 219 cables are available out of what is supposed to be 250k+.<p>Sure, that could be because of the DDOS attack but it looks as though this leak is taking place via a new server at cablegate.wikileaks.org which presumably anyone DDOS'ing wouldn't have had prior knowledge about to route attacks against.<p>It has meant that the newspapers (who were given pre-public access to the dumps) have effectively "leaked" the information as NYTimes and Guardian have started publishing the details before Wikileaks actually does the leaking.<p>I'm wondering if there was an agreed embargo when Wikileaks was supposed to actually "press the button". I further wonder if this will negatively effect the relationship between Wikileaks and the media going forward. Interestingly, Guardian which always prides itself on having data driven processes on stuff like this, has only released the metadata so far [1] -- I guess so that they are not the ones to do a complete leak before Wikileaks.<p>[1] <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/nov/29/wikileaks-cables-data" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/nov/29/wikileak...</a>
jedbrownover 14 years ago
View-source:<p><pre><code> ​&#60;a href='/classification/1_0.html' title='unclassified'&#62;CONFIDENTIAL&#60;/a&#62; &#60;a href='/classification/2_0.html' title='secret'&#62;CONFIDENTIAL//NOFORN&#60;/a&#62; &#60;a href='/classification/3_0.html' title='confidential'&#62;SECRET&#60;/a&#62; &#60;a href='/classification/4_0.html' title='secret//noforn'&#62;SECRET//NOFORN&#60;/a&#62;</code></pre>
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ck2over 14 years ago
Apparently while we are busy getting fondled by the TSA, this is what the rest of the world was ignoring:<p><i>North Korea secretly gave Iran 19 powerful missiles with a range of 2,000 miles. The missiles, known as the BM-25, are modified from Russian R-27s, which were submarine-based missiles carrying nuclear weapons</i><p>How insanely scary is that?
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vgurgovover 14 years ago
Can someone who support this release care to explain this. I seriously don't understand how can publishing someone's conversations be good.<p>1) How should communication with foreign embassies be done? Publicly via twitter?<p>2) Do you think that absolutely all information that gov has and exchange should be public? If not who should decide which info can be published?<p>3) What if somebody from Google get all you gmail conversations and publish it? If you dont like this idea, please explain why you support somebody publishing gov conversations then?<p>Thank you.
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moon_of_moonover 14 years ago
Interesting that November 2008 is missing.
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edoover 14 years ago
Only 219 cables released so far. It is mind-boggling to think how much there still is left, although WikiLeaks presumably started off with some of the most juicy bits to get press coverage.
Mithrandirover 14 years ago
I think Wikileaks main site is down.<p>"It works!<p>This is the default web page for this server.<p>The web server software is running but no content has been added, yet."<p>Going to their IP 88.80.13.160:<p>We are sorry,<p>WikiLeaks is currently underoing scheduled maintenance. We will be back online as soon as possible. For status updates you can follow our twitter feed.<p>You can still visit our IRC channel:<p><pre><code> * Using the web interface available here * Using regular IRC client, connect to chat.wikileaks.org SSL port 9999</code></pre>
Mithrandirover 14 years ago
<a href="http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Special:Support" rel="nofollow">http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Special:Support</a><p>"Not Found"<p>There's irony for you.
ilitiritover 14 years ago
Why weren't they able to get there hands on Classified content? I bet that would make for good reading.
gcbover 14 years ago
what is "the cables"?
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