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Tablets

387 pointsby timfover 14 years ago

49 comments

replicatorblogover 14 years ago
This is absolutely right. My company been working on a medical device accessory for the iPhone and the possibilities the "tablet" form factor are amazing.<p>Lower Cost Structure - In our industry (diabetes) you give away hardware to get ongoing disposable revenue. This hardware is expensive to produce and develop. Plus you spend a lot of effort on areas that don't add much value e.g. reinventing the wheel re: display drivers. This completely changes the economics of the industry.<p>Higher Product Quality - By taking advantage of the core Tablet attributes like color touch screen display and processor you can do things feature wise that would be prohibitive with custom hardware. The amount of "ooohs" we get showing off our iPhone UI vs the current LCD one is staggering.<p>New Revenue Opportunities - Again our business has thrived on a single revenue stream, the disposable test strips. With connections to the web all manner of "virtual good", subscription services, and other digital business models get opened up.<p>Overall it is a huge win for both user and entrepreneur and is going to fundamentally change a bunch of hardware businesses.<p>If you want to see our product, here is a nice review (<a href="http://www.fastcodesign.com/1662351/blood-glucose-monitor-for-the-iphone" rel="nofollow">http://www.fastcodesign.com/1662351/blood-glucose-monitor-fo...</a>)
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DanielBMarkhamover 14 years ago
Worth noting here that most analysts feel that the reason the original iPod was successful was that it only did one thing in an extremely friendly format.<p>I think the key question here is whether or not the app-universe grows in size until consumers desire separation of widgets again.<p>I know from my own experience that I found I maximize productivity by having separate devices responsible for separate things. For instance, when I pick up my blue iPod it's for education -- I keep books and lectures on there. But when I pick up my black iTouch it's for fun -- I keep only tunes there. My phone -- although it has all kinds of neat wizardry in it -- I use solely for talking to other people.<p>Perhaps both trends are true. Perhaps we end up individually separating our apps into physical devices based on preference instead of tradition. Neat stuff.
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edw519over 14 years ago
<i>Developers have used the accelerometer in ways Apple could never have imagined.</i><p>That sentence is one instance of this sentence:<p>Developers have used &#60;platformFunction&#62; in ways &#60;inventor&#62; could never have imagined.<p>What better argument for open standards, APIs, and community cooperation?
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drcodeover 14 years ago
&#62; I wouldn't be surprised if by playing some clever tricks with the accelerometer you could even replace the bathroom scale.<p>Galileo might take issue with that: <a href="http://www.jimloy.com/physics/galileo.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.jimloy.com/physics/galileo.htm</a>
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pgover 14 years ago
Incidentally, I know the Wikipedia article has been deleted, but I'm assuming someone will fix that.<p>(Is this the current world record for deletionism, or have there been more egregious examples?)
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Vivtekover 14 years ago
What blows my mind is that I might have been able to see this coming in the 80's - but Buckminster Fuller saw it coming in 19 fricking <i>38</i>. That man was incredible.
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pkulakover 14 years ago
"I wouldn't be surprised if by playing some clever tricks with the accelerometer you could even replace the bathroom scale."<p>I'd be surprised. Very, very, very surprised.
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ziadbcover 14 years ago
The naming convention for these goes back to some research at Xerox PARC <a href="http://www.ubiq.com/weiser/testbeddevices.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ubiq.com/weiser/testbeddevices.htm</a><p>Ubiquitious Computing is upon us, and much like the PC revolution, it will have been invented at Xerox and perfected at Apple.
sanjayparekhover 14 years ago
Just tweeted pg this but thought I'd say it here too. This is exactly what iRobot did when they saw the Roomba platform being taken apart and used for projects. They gave hackers the tools to use their platform and now sell quite a few Roomba based development kits instead of just plain old robot vacuums.
devindotcomover 14 years ago
Haven't we been calling them tablets for ages? People have been designing around the idea of tablets for decades. They had the ideas for the applications of tablets fifty years ago. I'm not sure I understand what this article says that is in any way original.
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duckover 14 years ago
<i>The fact that you can change font sizes easily means the iPad effectively replaces reading glasses.</i><p>Really? I mean it might help someone not need reading glasses for the tasks they do on the iPad... but they still have to have them to read the dinner menu, instructions on the box of food, and so on. If you can't replace it fully how good is it? The iPhone replaced regular cell phones because of the fact you no longer need two devices.<p>Or... I read too much into that.
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lianover 14 years ago
This isn't that surprising or revolutionary, it's all just part of the inevitable movement towards ubiquitous computing. It's obvious that we won't always be reliant upon one device's built-in sensors to constantly gather and supply relevant data in real-time, and inevitably we'll have an incredibly integrated network of real-time, physically collocated devices.<p>For now, tablets are great. And Apple is great at supplying them. But by no means does this mean anyone will be enslaved to Apple in the long term – someone else has the opportunity to create an open platform that enables any and all technologies to communicate with each other. Someone else will have to sell this platform to businesses, governments and, most importantly, consumers. And someone else will have to create the other, new interfaces by which we access and derive meaning from this data collection. And the challenge of preventing this from being too closed, too proprietary, is what will distinguish the best approach from the most profitable approach, and where we as users can choose to avoid a "client monoculture."<p>The tablet approach is just a step in an ongoing direction. It's way bigger than this.
tomjen3over 14 years ago
Replacing keys sounds like an interesting idea, but on one hand you have the problem that the tech needs to be rock-solid (if github is down I get mildly annoyed. If I can't get my door to open, I freeze to death) and you are competing against an already established technology that works really well (rfid tags) and isn't very expensive.<p>That said, I would love to hear more about your idea, if possible.
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ludwigvanover 14 years ago
"For historical reasons, the device in your pocket or purse - the one that you use to browse the Internet and send email, is called a "phone." We need a new name for that thing." Scott Adams. He suggests calling them "head". <a href="http://www.dilbert.com/blog/entry/phone/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dilbert.com/blog/entry/phone/</a><p>On a side note, I really need an innovation for keys, they scratch my iPhone! So, go, that new yc company, go!
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acgourleyover 14 years ago
This raises a question of how Apple will deal with "Made For iPod" interfaces that get increasingly generic. Right now they have a good framework for evaluating apps and hardware produced by one company to work together. They don't have a good way to understand hardware from company A working with software from company B.<p>What happens when someone wants to release a NES inspired D-Pad controller for iOS but wants to allow existing game makers to create apps that support it? Right now that is sort-of possible but it's very high friction.<p>Apple is a company who likes to build the whole stack from hardware to software; they feel like is necessary to create beautiful experiences. Will they compromise on this to facilitate a world where you can connect your iphone to any device in the house?<p>If they don't, progress may stagnate, hacks (like communication over wifi) will persist, and potentially they are giving up market share. Obviously they need to maintain the integrity and stability of the iOS devices but in my opinion they error too far on the side of caution.
roadnottakenover 14 years ago
Tablets are obviously great, but does anyone think they'll really replace cameras or GPSes? It seems to me that tablets will cut the <i>bottom</i> out of these markets (those with casual interest in photography or GPS or computing won't need to buy a dedicated device) but they'll never approach the quality of an SLR or a dedicated GPS. Or am I just being short-sighted?
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pedalpeteover 14 years ago
Doesn't the etherealization of hardware mean that we won't be referring to tablets, mobile devices, or laptops at all?<p>Isn't the only difference between an iPad and iPhone the screen size. So really, we're starting to refer to these devices based on size rather than power/memory/speed.
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luigiover 14 years ago
I think they're still just computers, and will be thought of as such. Sure, they're computers you hold in your hand, not the kind that sit on your desk. Gaming consoles and set top boxes are morphing into general purpose computers too. Those are computers that sit on a table near the TV. But they're all computers the same.<p><a href="http://luigimontanez.com/2010/the-computer-for-the-room/" rel="nofollow">http://luigimontanez.com/2010/the-computer-for-the-room/</a>
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patrickkover 14 years ago
Other stuff being replaced by smart devices: watches, alarm clocks, portable radios, cheap digital cameras, spirit levels, dictionaries and perhaps soon your wallet and physical mass-produced books. Looking at some of the creative stuff people do with mounting their iPad in vehicles, perhaps iPad-like devices will replace traditional dials in cars in the near future.<p><i>The only reason we even consider calling them "mobile devices" is that the iPhone preceded the iPad. If the iPad had come first, we wouldn't think of the iPhone as a phone; we'd think of it as a tablet small enough to hold up to your ear.</i> Hence the joke calling the iPad a giant iPhone. That was a pretty good description. If the future of telephony is VoIP, then that is pretty much bang on.
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RyanMcGrealover 14 years ago
Last summer, I rather surprised myself by using my android phone as a level while working on a backyard building project.<p>Also in the summer, I was camping when my flashlight died en route to the washroom. On the side of the path, I downloaded and installed a flashlight app, and then used it to find my way.<p>I volunteer in an after-school guitar class at my son's school, and use my phone to tune the kids' guitars before class starts.<p>A few weeks ago, a website I maintain went nonresponsive and I used my phone to ssh into the server and restart apache.<p>Just for fun, I installed an app that measures my heart rate using the camera.<p>Just five years ago, if you had suggested these uses for a phone, I would have thought you were nuts.
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pinkoover 14 years ago
Am I the only person who thinks the iOS usability is declining as its feature set and resulting complexity grows? It's still simple for me, but while my mother could handle the original iPhone, I think she'd get a little confused by the current one. (Double and triple clicks on the home button, cut and paste UI popping up unexpectedly, etc.)
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ulfover 14 years ago
I think a really disrupting and interesting field will be tablets as replacement for textbooks in education. The possibilities to create amazing educational material are endless.<p>On the other side, you have textbook publishers, who generally learn a lot of money with ever slightly changing editions and will do a lot to not see that income stream dying...
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Chris_Newtonover 14 years ago
&#62; Many if not most of the special-purpose objects around us are going to be replaced by apps running on tablets.<p>I respectfully disagree.<p>The trend for specialised vs. generalised devices seems to go in cycles over a period of a few years, in a similar way to the classic thick vs. thin client cycle. Consider games consoles vs. gaming on PCs, the iPod vs. mobile phones with media storage, etc. Neither extreme is ever going to take over entirely, and the bias moves as technology evolves.<p>I think this is mostly driven by trying to balance convenience and power. When new tools come along that are generic enough to make a certain broad class of jobs easier, we tend to jump on them. Many jobs get moved to those devices, and specialist devices that used to perform those jobs become obsolete. On the other hand, if you get too generic, you start to introduce waste and therefore inefficiency, which pushes things back the other way. Also, if your generic device is OK at doing lots of things but not particularly good at any of them, there is still a market for specialised devices that do a particular job better because their priorities are more appropriate.<p>We used to write software that ran on desktop PCs, but it turned out that a lot of practically useful software is essentially a simple user interface to a simple database. Native applications had common pain points in this field that could be overcome by hosting the code and data centrally, in areas like installation/updating/backup. Thus Web apps were born.<p>However, today, we're seeing major players in the industry trying to turn just about everything into such an application, and they are failing. It turns out that while Web apps are great for presenting relatively simple database UIs, they are relatively weak at performing most other tasks. Cloud computing is a pretty direct extension of the same argument.<p>I suspect things will go the same way with phones/tablets/mobile devices. A generic mobile device with a bunch of common built-in peripherals and sensors will solve a wide variety of real world problems, and thus various kinds of mobile app have been born. No doubt many more variations will follow over the next few years, as these devices support new functionality that was not previously available and ideas will spring up to take advantage of that functionality. The devices will be <i>good enough</i> for these purposes and will be widely adopted as a result.<p>On the other hand, Swiss army phones could easily start to suffer from both overspecification in breadth of features and underspecification in performance of individual features. For example, the suggestion in the article to replace reading glasses with a smart phone seems unrealistic and oversimplified to me: it sounds great initially, given that we have cameras and screens on these devices, but then you consider the vast range of different reasons that people are prescribed glasses, the consequent individuality of each prescription, and the fact that glasses do not generally require holding in your hand to use them.<p>In short, I'm afraid I don't buy pg's argument here at all. A certain class of applications, some of which already exist and some of which will be developed, will probably move to handheld multipurpose devices. However, specialised tools aren't going away any time soon, because any generic device is always going to be either a poor replacement for a good tool or too highly specified to be efficient for a broad market, even if the technology exists to combine high-quality implementations of all the required features within the required space and cost constraints in the first place.
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rdlover 14 years ago
What's the YC funded startup which is a replacement for keys? As in "We funded one startup that's replacing keys."
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seldoover 14 years ago
I look forward to the day when fat people everywhere will pulverize their iPads using them as bathroom scales.
chr15over 14 years ago
In 2001, Bill Gates said that by 2006 tablets would be the most popular form factor for PCs. They obviously weren't back then. It's funny how Apple changes ecosystems.<p><a href="http://gizmodo.com/5324866/vintage-bill-gates-predicts-tablets-to-be-the-most-popular-form-of-pc-sold-in-america" rel="nofollow">http://gizmodo.com/5324866/vintage-bill-gates-predicts-table...</a>
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walkonover 14 years ago
<i>The fact that you can change font sizes easily means the iPad effectively replaces reading glasses.</i><p>I disagree. Reading glasses are close to the eye and magnify without sacrificing the amount of text to viewable surface area. People who need to significantly increase the font size (i.e. the same people who would use reading glasses) are going be constantly interacting with the iPad to tell it to pan/scroll the viewable (magnified) surface around so that they can see everything. Pagination is only a partial workaround (still have to interact, just deal with the large increase in page turns) and only makes sense with text-type data (e.g. pictures lend themselves to panning, not paging).
timdellingerover 14 years ago
In general, the tablet enables all the ideas that people have had over the years that were perfect "except you'd have to carry around a computer to run the thing". I'd love to see communications protocols and hardware (next gen bluetooth?) developed to allow devices that need a computer to wirelessly use the one in my pocket.<p>I'd also like to see more innovation in the space where users hold tablets while they're facing a television set. The tablet-as-remote-control where the program listings are on the tablet. The tablet-as-gaming-controller where you and your opponent both have tablets (draw a path on a map to move a character instead of guiding the character turn-by-turn).
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kenjacksonover 14 years ago
Tablet is the wrong term. In fact I fear the use of it becoming <i>the</i> term to use as I think it immediately prunes potential avenues of exploration. I think mobile or personal device is a better term as its really about the intent of the device, which is to be with you always. Tablet really seems to describe the form factor. I'm not convinced that the form factor is all that important.
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blahedoover 14 years ago
Here's the thing: people who aren't geeks often like and even <i>prefer</i> single-purpose devices. There is, as has been noted (see <a href="http://g4tv.com/videos/44277/DICE-2010-Design-Outside-the-Box-Presentation/" rel="nofollow">http://g4tv.com/videos/44277/DICE-2010-Design-Outside-the-Bo...</a>), a "pocket exception", but for larger devices, people who aren't us are often intimidated or confused by devices that do many things.<p>And of course there are dangers in making a machine more general-purpose than it needs to be. Machines that are too general-purpose becomes more susceptible and sometimes tempting targets for hacking. (As usual, ground well-trod by xkcd: <a href="http://xkcd.com/463/" rel="nofollow">http://xkcd.com/463/</a>, <a href="http://xkcd.com/801/" rel="nofollow">http://xkcd.com/801/</a>)
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AN447over 14 years ago
I always thought of these devices as 'casual computing'
faramarzover 14 years ago
As much as the software is the <i>window to opportunity</i> for these devices, the hardware is just as important. Apple's form factor is exceptional! Their Industrial Design sense and abilities is one of the most important recipes to their success, I think.<p>Google unfortunately discounts this, or rather, is late to understand how important UX is in the tangible world as much as the intangible. When you pickup a phone, tablet rather, your first impressions are based on the physical device. The intrinsic value during this interaction is irreplaceable by any software, no matter how good.
moontearover 14 years ago
Was Paul trying to coin the word "tablet" for these kind of devices? I don't know how this is anything new, I have read of the iPad "tablet" or "tablet computer" many times.
someone_hereover 14 years ago
The real thing that makes these "tablets" interesting is the number of features they have packed into them. The "ease of use" that people are talking about when referencing Apple's products is just a part of Apple's marketing for their devices. Android (and Maemo and MeeGo and etc) devices are much more capable and much more hackable. Why the praise for such a bland device such as the i-OSes when there's an awesome OS and device market sitting right next to it?
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prakashover 14 years ago
Here's another good example of etherealization: With Skype one can get a US (and a few other countries) number that gets routed to my skype id.
rbarooahover 14 years ago
I think it's clear that Steve Jobs is fully aware of this. It's why he <i>changed the name of the company to Apple Inc</i>, just before announcing the iPhone - he wasn't indicating that he was going to start building hundreds of different consumer electronics products - he was telling the world that a the iPhone and it's variants would replace most of them.
albemuthover 14 years ago
One thing that now seems ridiculous is the bank authenticator tokens, the blizzard authentication apps are a great example
anthonycerraover 14 years ago
Apple's tablets are just one aspect of this etherealization. The real hero here is software. From the ability to create a physical three dimensional object to the manipulation of DNA - software makes it possible.<p>What's reassuring is that Apple doesn't have control over all the hardware interfaces that make (and will make) this possible.
xenophanesover 14 years ago
Another possible recipe for a startup (not saying this would be easy) is to find an important way that Apple is handicapping their devices and overcome it on Apple's own platform in a way that Apple will allow. If you can do that, users will love it and buy your product.
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bergieover 14 years ago
I'm a bit surprised that there was no mention of Jef Raskin's information appliance concept<p><a href="http://gizmodo.com/5452501/the-apple-tablet-interface-must-be-like-this" rel="nofollow">http://gizmodo.com/5452501/the-apple-tablet-interface-must-b...</a>
quickpostover 14 years ago
The other question is for Apple - what other sorts of addressable hardware could be added to the iPad to make it even more versatile (temperature sensor, various transducers, etc.).
adityaover 14 years ago
Typo in the last line: "and inch" should be "an inch"
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charlesjuover 14 years ago
I just can't wait for the Kinect sensors to be an open standard with a commododized component in every electronics we have.
bussover 14 years ago
I fancy the term "communicator," personally.
bfungover 14 years ago
seems like there's still a lot of work todo, and a lot of room for growth. A survey of how people use their ipads, coincidentally from today: <a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/ipad-survey" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessinsider.com/ipad-survey</a>
replicatorblogover 14 years ago
FYI, the link to RFS 8 is broken.
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gasullover 14 years ago
In Spanish the word "tabletas" is already used for this.
orionlogicover 14 years ago
i wish there is direct rss feed for the essays other than some intermediary channel.
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extensionover 14 years ago
computer<p>minicomputer<p>microcomputer<p>...nanocomputer?
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