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Microsoft is going to ship a full Linux kernel in Windows 10

313 pointsby oldjokesabout 6 years ago

19 comments

stevehiehnabout 6 years ago
Makes you wonder if the endgame is to eventually just gut windows completely and have a Microsoft GUI running on Linux.
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cs702about 6 years ago
<i>&gt; Microsoft’s integration of Linux in Windows 10 will interface with a userspace installed via the Windows Store...</i><p>Given Microsoft&#x27;s history, I can&#x27;t help but wonder if this wholehearted embrace of Linux is part of a classic Microsoft embrace-extend-extinguish strategy.[a]<p>Is the endgame a Windows-only userspace layered on top of the Linux kernel?<p>[a] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis...</a>
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s3cur3about 6 years ago
Previous discussion, with the official source: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=19842817" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=19842817</a>
AtHeartEngineerabout 6 years ago
I want native bash commands in Windows shell. I know powershell supports some commands, but and actual Linux shell to interface with the rest of windows will be awesome. WSL is getting there, sucks I&#x27;ve gotta install Python and node&#x2F;npm twice.
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bastard_opabout 6 years ago
Nevermind we tried to curb stomp you for the past 25 years. Haha.
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Quiarkabout 6 years ago
So how will the kernel run? I guess virtualised behind the scenes using Hyper-V and accessed using the Windows Terminal? Seems that this should replace the WSL project entirely which is kind of a shame because it was pretty cool.<p>Also, unlike others here, I&#x27;m not a fan of a computing monoculture where everything is UNIX going forward.
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shmerlabout 6 years ago
It replaces Wine-like WSL with some virtualization. Apparently performance of WSL didn&#x27;t cut it comparing to VMs.
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continuationsabout 6 years ago
Does GPL require Microsoft to open source Windows 10 then?
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leshokuninabout 6 years ago
Wonder what this will mean. Is the ability to run Linux commands and programs going to be there just so people who like Terminal can do their job without VMs? Is this a deeper move towards making apps more universal? That would remind me of when Mac OS migrated to x86 in some fashion.
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danalecabout 6 years ago
systemd versus windows
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ridiculous_fishabout 6 years ago
Will the kernels be able to interact at all outside of the filesystem? For example could I write a Linux program which opens a Windows browser?
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leemailllabout 6 years ago
Do they also offer package management?
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ryan-allenabout 6 years ago
I&#x27;m very excited about this. It&#x27;s like everything I wanted all in one operating system!
mmcdonald3009about 6 years ago
OpenSuSE Leap 15 anyone ???
daotoadabout 6 years ago
World domination achieved.
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ggmabout 6 years ago
Anyone else here remember &quot;eunice&quot; on Vax&#x2F;VMS?
thrownaway954about 6 years ago
oh man... if we can finally use native ruby gems on windows and host the sites through iis without the performance hit... this will be a game changer.
dzamo_nortonabout 6 years ago
Gonna be a big download.
inflatableDodoabout 6 years ago
Sounds great, however I had already assumed that in order to save money, Windows 10 was probably just an obfuscated linux kernel running some weird MS fork of Wine.
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