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Mark Zuckerberg Agrees to Give Away Fortune

239 pointsby jakartaover 14 years ago

32 comments

lionheartedover 14 years ago
Fantastic.<p>I wonder if all these very public proclamations are going to shift people's attitude towards taxes? Most people think of the government as wasteful, inefficient, incompetent, and corrupt to more or less degrees, and I know I'd prefer to see money allocated by smart people like Gates, Buffet, Zuckerberg than by politicians who need to keep constituents happy and win votes.<p>I committed a while back to giving 10% of my income to charity henceforth, probably for my whole life. I know I've felt much better when I raised money for St. Jude's or Grand Ormond Street children's hospitals than when I wrote a check to the IRS to fund the latest special interest-fueled debacle.<p>There's a "the evil rich are against us" narrative in movies and stories a lot, but I wonder if the perception will start to change when all the good from these endeavors is realized. I think it's quite likely that smart people allocating resources intelligently will do 10x, 20x, 50x more good with the money than a politician possibly could.
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DevX101over 14 years ago
After someone asked Warren Buffet why he wanted to give away all of his fortune, he replied:<p>"I want to leave enough money to my children that they can do anything, but no so much that they will do nothing".
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petenixeyover 14 years ago
I happen to have just watched a brilliant TED talk on the value of angel investment (not aid) in Africa. The talk underlined how it is capitalism rather than charity that creates wealth.<p>It would be wonderful to see some of SV's glitterati create more for-profit investment networks (bigger than Kiva, smaller than VC (...YC?)) in other hungry markets.<p>Kudos to Mark for committing to this. If he applies his product-brilliance to how he goes about it I'm sure he will do wonderful things.<p>(Alexis this has your name written all over it BTW ;)
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narratorover 14 years ago
I think if Mark wanted to give back to the world he should do what Elon Musk is doing and start high risk businesses that can create widespread beneficial change in the world.
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burgerbrainover 14 years ago
I'd rather see more people following the lead of Elon Musk than Bill Gates. Instead of throwing money at problems that will always exist and producing no real value, Musk is creating high-tech jobs and advancing the state of humanity.
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grandalfover 14 years ago
I think of this as sort of a cop out (on the part of all the people who do it). If you're good at business, then you can have a far bigger impact by creating businesses than by simply giving your money to some charity.<p>It's ultimately a socially lauded thing to do that divorces the donor from any ultimate responsibility for the amount of "greater good" done with the funds. I think they do it out of fear that they were a lucky, one-hit wonder... and out of low self-esteem or fear of the angry mob.<p>YC is a great example of a way to use wealth to make a real difference. PG uses his acumen to help a lot more people level up. This multiplies wealth. Spending it on charities simply redistributes it.<p>It makes me very pessimistic to see that the world's wealthiest people feel the need simply to pledge the money away, and no need to risk total failure by going out on a limb to do something bigger than whatever got them there.<p>What if Bill Gates tried some long shot idea and it flopped? What if Zuckerberg or Case did? That would take real courage. This pledge nonsense reminds me of the self-satisfied smirks people emit when publicly putting money into the collection basket in a church. Why isn't one of these rich guys going to bat for Wikileaks? (Probably because it feels a lot better to be praised all the time for being such a great person by all the sycophants trying to get you to write a check!)
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quizbizover 14 years ago
How much liquid wealth does Mark actually have? Isn't the vast majority of it purely theoretical based on Facebook equity purchases?
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j4peover 14 years ago
There is no reason for Facebook to go public anytime in the near future. It will be more and more revenue positive as it refines its advertising model. Zuckerberg's contribution is therefore worth very little at the moment, outside of the tremendous commitment it implies for Mark. At some point, he will probably control huge amounts of wealth and it's bold of him to sign away most of the cash before he ever has control over it.<p>But wouldn't it be amusing if Facebook were to go the way of preceding social networks, and leave the "world's youngest billionaire" looking a little silly for pledging a fortune that never materialized?
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keiferskiover 14 years ago
It's certainly commendable to give away a vast fortune, and I don't want to take away from this honorable act in any way.<p>But I wonder why more ridiculously wealthy entrepreneurs don't, ya know, preneur? Especially in the nonprofit "make a difference space".<p>A billion dollars to charity is cool. You know what's really cool? A billion dollars towards a celebrity billionaire-spearheaded do-good project. (Or 1 million dollars each towards 1000 projects, etc.)<p>Maybe I'm missing something, and I'm certainly no billionaire, so I probably am. But if I were a billionaire, I'd be more interested in angel investing (in promising, impactful projects) and my bringing my own ideas to life.<p>But I digress. Bravo to the billionaires. Really, this is awesome.
nhangenover 14 years ago
This is from the PDF on the giving pledge website:<p>"The pledge does not involve pooling money or supporting a particular set of causes or organizations. The pledge asks only that the individual give the majority of their wealth to philanthropic causes or charitable organizations either before or after their death."<p>Interesting way to do this. I still don't really understand the need for a pledge of this magnitude, but at least they aren't pooling the money or soliciting for specific causes.<p>That being said, I still think Zuck is far too young to make such a strong commitment.
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markbaoover 14 years ago
This is really great to hear. We need more of this.<p>I'd pledge if I had any hugely significant sum like the others in the pledge, but alas.
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webXLover 14 years ago
You can give it away while you're alive, or split it between your loved ones and the state when you die. I think it would be more fun giving it away to those most in need rather than enriching those who've already had a pretty good life... and your loved ones, too.
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yasonover 14 years ago
If I had billions I would certainly pay great attention to where I would put that money to work in order to create most goodness and wealth out of it. I would be wary of many charities as groups can get as confused from big money as individuals do.
Jun8over 14 years ago
AFAIK, Jobs has still not committed.
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code_duckover 14 years ago
I find it odd how people such as Gates and Zuckerberg obsessively stomp down their competition through any means possible, and then turn around and grandiosely pledge to give away their gains.
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mericover 14 years ago
This is great; Rather than having government's and or NGO employees who pulls normal salary and aren't experienced in efficiently managing the spending of billions of dollars of development aid and end up harming the recipients, we are now getting the billionaires - people who excel at efficiently investing billions of dollars to reap billions more - to allocate these resources.
paulitexover 14 years ago
Hey Sergey, Larry, and Steve, heads up.<p>These guys all have around the same net worth as Zuck, but much more liquidity. Sergey "don't be evil" Brin's absence from the list is a particularly curious... Anyone know what his philanthropic track record is like? Is it mostly through Google.org?
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reneighborover 14 years ago
I like that it's about thinking how to give responsibly and effectively, pledging early in life so they can put their creativity to good use, as the article says. People who sign are trading ideas and logistical advice, it's like a book club for philanthropy.
scorpion032over 14 years ago
I wonder if you can buy real groceries using facebook stock, yet.
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chopsueyarover 14 years ago
<i>Yet since his wealth is from his ownership stake a company that has yet to list on the stock market, much of that wealth is theoretical at this point.</i>
beeephover 14 years ago
Someone once said, "No man is rich enough to buy back his past." If you ask me, this just might do it for Zuck. Congrats Man! I hope you find yourself surprised by how many other young entrepreneurs follow suit. But seriously, do yourself a favor, quit renting your little college house and buy yourself a little home while interest rates are still low.
ramanujanover 14 years ago
There is at least one billionare who is thinking different:<p><a href="http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_16792615" rel="nofollow">http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_16792615</a><p>That's a story about the eight philanthropies Thiel is funding, which are much more oriented along the lines of "give a man the plans for a new fishing machine" than traditional philanthropy.
jigantiover 14 years ago
It's commendable for anyone to give away their money, but especially so when it's a guy in his mid-twenties.
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iterationxover 14 years ago
Stating that the global population was heading towards 9 billion, Gates said, “If we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services (abortion), we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 per cent.”<p>Another billionaire signs up for Gate's depopulation agenda.
tomjen3over 14 years ago
Well, this will properly be nice for those who receive those founds, but I have to wonder why he did it. Why get a fortune just to give it away?
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SoftwareMavenover 14 years ago
The big question will be does Zuck's fortune liquify at anywhere near the level that it is now. :)
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minow12over 14 years ago
Would be better spent donating that money to research. Technology helps way more people than food stamps do.
stretchwithmeover 14 years ago
After much cajoling, I have agreed to accept it.
toephuover 14 years ago
zuckerberg doesn't even have $10mil cash, let alone billions. it's all on paper.
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RtodaAVover 14 years ago
I wouldn't.
jrockwayover 14 years ago
This makes it okay that he sells my list of friends to advertisers!
nhangenover 14 years ago
With great wealth, comes great power, and with great power, comes the ability to change the world.<p>Though I loathe the way he's built Facebook, I trust someone like Zuck with several billion more than I trust someone without the ability to earn it. Who is going to be managing this money, and where is it going? Is this just a pledge, with no strings attached?<p>The article isn't very forthcoming, and neither is the website: givingpledge.org<p>I don't understand what's happened with Gates, and though I admire his sentiment, I think putting pressure on young entrepreneurs, who already have thousands of voices in their heads, is a wrong move.<p>Call me callous, but this whole thing seems insane. Mark can do more good with his money by building new technologies than this fund could do manage multiple billions of dollars. It's rare that money on that scale is managed well.