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Kik and the SEC: What’s Going on and What Does It Mean for Crypto?

82 pointsby karanbhanguiabout 6 years ago

6 comments

StavrosKabout 6 years ago
I really dislike the ongoing usage of the word "crypto" to mean "cryptocurrency", i.e. "cryptographical currency". I can never tell if something's happening to ICOs or cryptography.
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tveitaabout 6 years ago
&gt; 50% of participants in the token sale purchased less than $1000 of Kin, which seems more consistent with a consumptive use vs. investment purpose argument.<p>So 50% purchased <i>more</i> than $1000. To do what, buy stickers and themes?<p>I&#x27;d wager than even the &quot;under $1000&quot; crowd will be 90% cryptocurrency investors holding it as part of a &quot;balanced&quot; portfolio.
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ilakshabout 6 years ago
The proposed Token Taxonomy Act is relevant. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.congress.gov&#x2F;bill&#x2F;116th-congress&#x2F;house-bill&#x2F;2144&#x2F;text" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.congress.gov&#x2F;bill&#x2F;116th-congress&#x2F;house-bill&#x2F;2144...</a><p>I think its really necessary to differentiate between ICOs and cryptocurrency in general.
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aakilfernandesabout 6 years ago
IANAL, but:<p>The interesting thing about securities is that although we think of a security as a &quot;thing&quot; (like Kin) its actually a transaction - as in a &quot;securities transaction&quot;. Meaning with two transactions involving Kin, one transaction could be a securities transaction, and the other could not.<p>This is more obvious when you think of the original Howey test. Selling an orange grove is not a securities transaction, but selling an orange grove where you also promise to cultivate the asset for the profit of the investor is.<p>Selling $5 of Kin in to a Kik user doesn&#x27;t sound like a securities transaction, but selling $5 Million to a VC fund does (though probably one exempt from registration).
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gcb0about 6 years ago
how does the law work when you did something before it was illegal? or why it&#x27;s not the case here?
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xhgdvjkyabout 6 years ago
legal precedence was poorly thought out