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Seattle police use family DNA, latest science to identify killer 52 years later

146 pointsby curtisalmost 6 years ago

10 comments

saagarjhaalmost 6 years ago
Getting your DNA sequenced is a bit like letting an app have access to your contacts: in both, your choice has consequences for hundreds of other people. Unfortunately it doesn’t seem like it’s possible to undo the effects of something your friends/family might have done :/
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Fnoordalmost 6 years ago
I&#x27;ve been part of the group who got asked to give a DNA sample in the Nicky Verstappen [1] case. This was voluntarily, and I reluctantly did this (for [mostly ethical] reasons which would make this post very long), and had a good discussion about it with the 2 policemen who came to my house to take the sample. The technique used (family DNA) is the same in that case as in the topic we discuss.<p>Now, I knew I didn&#x27;t do it, and I knew it would be highly unlikely (but not impossible) that a male member of my family did this (not emotional but practical reasons: my uncle didn&#x27;t quite live near the region, my father was almost blind and could barely walk, and my cousin was like 10 or so when this happened). So I didn&#x27;t quite get the point. However, because I volunteered, the police could flag my entire family off the list of suspects. This narrowed the net around the perpetrator.<p>Thanks to people like me, not to mention the hard work of hundreds of policemen, the case is now solved (or well, to be precise there&#x27;s a suspect on trial; not yet a convict). Because <i>there was a match</i> with a family member of him. And as you can read at [1] the bird had flown cause it got too hot around him.<p>I recently got a letter from the government that my DNA got destroyed. Whether you believe that letter or not is up to you; during my interview I had the chance to decide for it to be kept or destroyed after the case was final, and I went with the latter. I&#x27;d like to hope my choice is respected by my government.<p>I get it though that with common law and in the USA you gotta be very careful when talking to the police but my experience in The Netherlands with the police has been positive or in some occurrences neutral at worst. Could be white male privilege though. YMMV.<p>As for<p>&gt; If the host is the planet, what is the claim on the other guests to your body.<p>On Earth&#x27;s &quot;body&quot; the other guests are alive; you&#x27;re dead. They can contribute to the future of planet earth and its inhabitants while your time is done for. So it makes sense that whatever is done with your remains and inheritance goes to the inhabitants, with a (slight) prejudice towards your direct ancestors (family). The good news is, our legal systems have law to provide for such as it is.<p>As for the other inhabitants in your body, we&#x27;re at the point where pets have a few rights whereas cattle and such have barely none. Lets not think about the rights of bacteria and parasites and such (they don&#x27;t even have a CNS to begin with, and while their usefulness is up for debate, they&#x27;re not exactly a dying breed).<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Death_of_Nicky_Verstappen" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Death_of_Nicky_Verstappen</a>
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gnivalmost 6 years ago
&gt; She was able to match a palm print recovered from the elevator control panel, and lifted during initial crime scene processing, to those taken from Wypych in 1971 when he was arrested for larceny, SPD said.<p>So, why didn&#x27;t they attempt this kind of matching in the first place? Much easier than DNA.
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carbocationalmost 6 years ago
The use of DNA in ways not anticipated by <i>informed</i>[1] consent is wrong.<p>1 = Not just a signature on the form. But a real understanding of what we&#x27;re going to use it for.
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mirimiralmost 6 years ago
There are further implications.<p>For example, since WWII, there have been huge efforts to identify and locate war criminals. So now, where there&#x27;s DNA evidence, that could continue, even though such criminals had died. And in future wars, combatants will perhaps make efforts to retain DNA evidence.<p>Having war be less anonymous is arguably a great thing.
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superbaconmanalmost 6 years ago
Voluntarily shared third party info isn&#x27;t private (at least under the law). This may actually end up being a good thing long term for healthcare.
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jayalphaalmost 6 years ago
From a behavioral perspective it is odd that a guy would do this and then stop doing it.
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verisimilitudesalmost 6 years ago
I find it disconcerting that someone&#x27;s remains would be violated due to being a murder suspect. This is one of many reasons to have your remains cremated, I suppose. It also avoids wasting space in a graveyard and whatnot.<p>I&#x27;m beginning to seriously hear people discuss that it&#x27;s perfectly okay to use DNA people submit in these ways and even that it would be okay for the government to collect trash and other things that would contain DNA to add people to databases. Such arguments are usually emotional and follow the &#x27;&#x27;If just one person is saved&#x27;&#x27; trope.<p>This is rather harrowing, don&#x27;t you agree?
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Iamhisaltalmost 6 years ago
Buried in there:<p>“Do you realize, for example, that when you upload your DNA, you’re potentially becoming a genetic informant on the rest of your family?” Elizabeth Joh, a UC Davis law professor who studies the Fourth Amendment and technology, told the magazine.
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thraxalmost 6 years ago
Quelle surprise.. another military&#x2F;police type.. just like EAR&#x2F;ONS... Seems like we could save some time and just check dna against known mil&#x2F;police dna first.
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