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Joyent Public Cloud EOL

317 pointsby rubin55almost 6 years ago

19 comments

skrebbelalmost 6 years ago
Can anyone explain Joyent to me? My understanding always was that they&#x27;re some special kind of hosting provider. But I never really got it. They sponsor Node.js, they sponsor all kinds of ex-Sun Solaris-related stuff, employing high profile people from both communities. What does supporting (and, at a time in the past, basically running) Node.js get a hosting provider? What about Joyent&#x27;s products is related to Node at all?<p>But oh, they&#x27;re cancelling the public cloud, which I assume was the hosting service? Then what are they now? I went to their site but I totally didn&#x27;t get it, I&#x27;m obviously not the target audience.<p>So, what does Joyent really do, how to they make money, and how does it make business sense for them to do all that illumos&#x2F;zfs&#x2F;node etc etc stuff? Are they an AWS competitor? A Heroku competitor? An Oracle&#x2F;ex-Sun competitor? I really can&#x27;t place them.
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tjfontainealmost 6 years ago
I can say without a doubt, if it weren’t for Joyent, my fantastic coworkers, and the experience and opportunity they granted me I wouldn’t be where I am today. I fondly remember debugging issues and learning so much with my talented coworkers. Congratulations Joyeurs on everything you’ve done to forward the Public Cloud and Systems Engineering.
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TimTheTinkeralmost 6 years ago
TextDrive (bought by Joyent) was one of the first hosting services to support Ruby On Rails as a first-class service -- in the days when static hosting, PHP, Perl, and Java&#x2F;Tomcat were the only options on Linux infrastructure. They were well-noted for their &quot;lifetime hosting&quot; membership deal, which was incredibly exciting at the time (this was in a day where flat-fee and free hosting outside the likes of MySpace and Geocities was unheard-of). TextDrive was where all the cool kids hosted their projects.<p>RIP Joyent public cloud (and the last remnant of TextDrive&#x27;s legacy).
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ericfrederichalmost 6 years ago
Sad to hear. I selfishly hope the company does well for the sole purpose of keeping Bryan Cantrill employed so he can continue to give fantastic talks that I watch on YouTube.
joeblubaughalmost 6 years ago
Wow, 5 months is an insanely short timetable to ask people to migrate entire systems to another vendor. I’m surprised their contracts don’t have better terms.
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rubin55almost 6 years ago
Here&#x27;s a blog explaining the decision : <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.joyent.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;joyent-announces-strategic-change-to-their-public-cloud-business" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.joyent.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;joyent-announces-strategic-chang...</a>
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jpgvmalmost 6 years ago
End of an era. Lots of good stuff to come out of Joyent and I hope we don&#x27;t see the end of their OSS contributions. Manatee (the state machine behind Manta PostgreSQL HA), the SmartOS KVM port, Triton itself - huge body of great stuff in addition to Illumos contributions that they are perhaps better known for.
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bernsalmost 6 years ago
&gt; For our existing public cloud and private data center customers, adding scale, financial muscle, and Samsung as both a partner for innovation and as a large anchor tenant customer for Triton and Manta, will pay big dividends.<p>The tenant is now too large, please move out.
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jiveturkeyalmost 6 years ago
Oh no! I was just researching them and about to buy services! I suppose that&#x27;s the problem. Too many &quot;about to buy&quot; and not enough actual buying.<p>But I mean, in honesty it&#x27;s long overdue. Technical superiority loses out again.
saurikalmost 6 years ago
One nice thing about having more cloud providers is having more options for where your computation was housed. I have had a machine at Joyent for a long time now (with the goal of building a service that I never got around to, so sadly for them only ever the one computer) because their US South West datacenter is located not just &quot;in Vegas&quot; but specifically at the SwitchNAP SuperNAP site, which co-located me with other resources I was using: I had a &lt;1ms ping to my upstream telecom provider, and thereby could sit inside of real-time audio without adding noticeable latency (as well as have the option of getting extra-cheap bandwidth: I wasn&#x27;t going to be costing Joyent anything for bandwidth but was still intending to use lots of CPU, so they had indicated a willingness to let me one-off this billing if I ever actually scaled up, though I was still quite happy to pay the full price for the epic latency). AWS is great (and I honestly used them for most of my less latency sensitive projects... hence the problem for Joyent, I appreciate), but their lack of a South West location means that the lowest ping I can get from them for this purpose is almost 20ms :(.
equaluniquealmost 6 years ago
I have been a fan of Joyent&#x27;s tech for several years now. This change seems like a scary one. Wishing them luck.
warp_factoralmost 6 years ago
Sad day. I never used them but I always enjoyed Bryan Cantrill&#x27;s postmortems and deep dives on Joyent all over the internet. Would love to see his take on this EOL announcement.<p>Bryan, are you around?
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foxhopalmost 6 years ago
That sucks really badly... Sad customer here.
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Nuxalmost 6 years ago
I fondly remember Joyent as one of the first companies to do Ruby on Rails hosting right. They were using a combo of FreeBSD, Virtualmin, Apache (proxying to mongrel etc).<p>Fun times!
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bovermyeralmost 6 years ago
Oop. I know a former employer will now be scrambling to migrate their legacy servers...
freezey00almost 6 years ago
Did anyone actually even use that thing?
njyxalmost 6 years ago
Wow - brings back memories!
freezey00almost 6 years ago
not sure anyone really even used this thing.
new_realistalmost 6 years ago
Could have been predicted seven years ago. Kudos for making it longer than expected.
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