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Nasa to Open International Space Station to Tourists

249 pointsby bem94almost 6 years ago

16 comments

consumer451almost 6 years ago
If I may, I am personally very excited for more people, especially wealthy people, to go into space so that many of them experience the overview effect.[0]<p>&gt; The overview effect is a cognitive shift in awareness reported by some astronauts during spaceflight, often while viewing the Earth from outer space.<p>&gt; It is the experience of seeing firsthand the reality of the Earth in space, which is immediately understood to be a tiny, fragile ball of life, &quot;hanging in the void&quot;, shielded and nourished by a paper-thin atmosphere. From space, national boundaries vanish, the conflicts that divide people become less important, and the need to create a planetary society with the united will to protect this &quot;pale blue dot&quot; becomes both obvious and imperative.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Overview_effect" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Overview_effect</a>
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Klathmonalmost 6 years ago
[1] is a link to the NASA press release.<p>At a glance, it looks less about space tourism and more about enabling private companies to begin manufacturing and development in LEO or conduct experiments that NASA themselves don&#x27;t need to be directly involved in.<p>In fact it seems to specifically call out that private astronauts are only allowed if they enable the allowed &quot;activities&quot;.<p>Also, it looks like they are looking to have a dedicated &quot;commercial&quot; section of the ISS, and long term they want to have multiple commercial destinations in LEO!<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nasa.gov&#x2F;press-release&#x2F;nasa-opens-international-space-station-to-new-commercial-opportunities-private" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nasa.gov&#x2F;press-release&#x2F;nasa-opens-international-...</a>
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sandworm101almost 6 years ago
&gt;&gt; $35,000 (£27,500) per night.<p>That is cheaper than the multi-room suites on board the A380. It&#x27;s cheaper than renting many boats.<p>Or maybe this is a trick. How long is a &quot;night&quot; on space station? Only an hour or so iirc. Maybe they get back to earth and get a surprise Expedia bill on their cc.
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aerophilicalmost 6 years ago
I love that they are doing this, but I am worried it may not be enough to keep the ISS up past 2024, but it is a good first step.<p>Some context for those that haven’t been following closely: It costs NASA over 4 billion a year to maintain the ISS. [0]<p>While the vast majority of that cost is transportation to&#x2F;from the ISS (around 2.4 billion), there is a sizeable chuck that if they could “offload” to the private sector, may allow NASA to keep the ISS in orbit longer than currently planned.<p>The problem is, at least until they grow a true market, that market isn’t big enough to support that maintenance.<p>So, I <i>believe</i> the strategy (which makes sense) is try and get a true market&#x2F;interest in the ISS going. If they can do that successfully, it should lower the cost for everyone, potentially allowing for even more things to happen in LEO.<p>So we will see, but I will note one of the biggest risks for SpaceX&#x2F;Blue Origin&#x2F;others doing commercial resupply is that once ISS disappears, there is no ready customer&#x2F;market for their commercial offerings for crew. No way faster to kill the infant commercial crew space industry than to starve it of revenue.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nasa.gov&#x2F;sites&#x2F;default&#x2F;files&#x2F;atoms&#x2F;files&#x2F;fy_2018_budget_presentation_media_telecon.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nasa.gov&#x2F;sites&#x2F;default&#x2F;files&#x2F;atoms&#x2F;files&#x2F;fy_2018...</a>
kawfeyalmost 6 years ago
They&#x27;ve done this before. Charles Simonyi [0] went up to the ISS in 2007 and 2009. I got to talk to him via ham radio.<p>Space Adventures [1] has been doing it since 2001, but it seem they haven&#x27;t had any recent trips.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Charles_Simonyi" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Charles_Simonyi</a> [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Space_Adventures" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Space_Adventures</a>
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cmancinialmost 6 years ago
Most people talk about 1) tourism and 2) research which makes sense, but I can see a lot of benefit for marketing and branding. Imagine promo videos of someone using your gadget in space. A private company could fly up a few models&#x2F;actors, a few of the latest brands goods, and get shots looking back at earth or floating around.<p>Luxury goods like watches and pens have already capitalized on this (Fisher Space Pen, Omega Moonwatch). I could see other high margin luxury brands snagging a seat:<p>- Sneakers (Air Jordans -&gt; Space Jordans?)<p>- Jewelry (Diamond industry could play up a diamonds&#x2F;stars theme)<p>- Fashion (play up the weightless&#x2F;effortless aspect)<p>Any brand could get in on it if someone figured out the economics of a testing service. Small brands and Kickstarter projects could pool resources and fly up a few hundred toys and say they were &#x27;tested in space&#x27;.
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jorge-dalmost 6 years ago
Given that ISS belongs to multiple countries (US &#x2F; Russia &#x2F; Japan &#x2F; Canada &#x2F; UE), is NASA allowed to sell tickets to travel there and get keep the benefits of the sell for itself ?
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PunksATawnyFillalmost 6 years ago
It&#x27;s NASA. Why don&#x27;t the Brits understand acronyms?
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captn3m0almost 6 years ago
I remembered the EoL date for ISS being 2024, but it looks like a bill was passed this September extending it to 2030.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;spacenews.com&#x2F;house-joins-senate-in-push-to-extend-iss&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;spacenews.com&#x2F;house-joins-senate-in-push-to-extend-i...</a>
jakebakeralmost 6 years ago
Why not consider running an auction in the early years to maximize private funding for operations?
ggregoirealmost 6 years ago
From the official tweet:<p>&gt; @Space_Station is open for commercial business! Watch @Astro_Christina talk about the steps we&#x27;re taking to make our orbiting laboratory accessible to all Americans.<p>Why is it limited only to Americans?
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droithommealmost 6 years ago
The food and room service better be top notch for what I&#x27;m paying here! Commander Kononenko, when the heck is my laundry gonna be done?! Hop hop!
callumprenticealmost 6 years ago
Whole new market for NoAirB&amp;B rentals..
eutropiaalmost 6 years ago
&gt; Nasa&#x27;s announcement on Friday is part of a move towards full privatisation of the ISS. US President Donald Trump published a budget last year which called for the station to be defunded by the government by 2025.<p>I had no idea that the ISS was going to be de-funded. Does that even make sense?
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rifficalmost 6 years ago
Hey Bbc, it&#x27;s NASA not Nasa.
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johnchristopheralmost 6 years ago
Really off-topic and nit-picking: if you are going to editorialize the title to capital letters for every words (tourists -&gt; Tourists) then do it at least for `NASA`.<p>While I Am At It, I Do Dislike random Capitalization :) and those rules <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;grammar.yourdictionary.com&#x2F;capitalization&#x2F;rules-for-capitalization-in-titles.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;grammar.yourdictionary.com&#x2F;capitalization&#x2F;rules-for-...</a>
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