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Report finds wealth of top 1% up $21T, bottom 50% down $900B since 1989

61 pointsby microwavecameraalmost 6 years ago

7 comments

mquanderalmost 6 years ago
Don&#x27;t fall for it:<p>&gt; This follows from 30 years in which the top 1 percent massively grew their net worth while the bottom half saw a slight decline in its net worth.<p>The &quot;top 1%&quot; and &quot;bottom half&quot; are categories, not entities. They are made up of different people in 1989 and 2019, not the same people getting richer and poorer respectively. The author wants you to imagine a bunch of rich people having more and more money each year, and poorer people having less and less. This is not what the statistic means.
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peisistratosalmost 6 years ago
Most work for wages. Workers work a few hours a day creating wealth and keeping the wealth they create. The last few hours a day, they keep absolutely none of the wealth they keep - it is expropriated by heirs. It is a social relationship - we work, they live off our labor. They are parasites, and they have little helpers who they give crumbs to and argue their case, including those who tell guileless fools that a magic man who lives in the clouds named Jesus will make sure they never die.
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huevingalmost 6 years ago
And how did the top 49% do? A.k.a all of the middle class and above.
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mdorazioalmost 6 years ago
I&#x27;m confused by this. It doesn&#x27;t quite mesh with the more recent numbers I&#x27;m familiar with such as [1], which shows modest gains for the bottom 50% wealth households from 2013 to 2016 [1]. My guess is that the dotcom bust recession and great recession both knocked down bottom-half wealth holders far more than the interim percentage gains to arrive at the net decrease quoted here.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dqydj.com&#x2F;net-worth-brackets-wealth-brackets-one-percent&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dqydj.com&#x2F;net-worth-brackets-wealth-brackets-one-per...</a>
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daenzalmost 6 years ago
<p><pre><code> &gt;People&#x27;s Policy Project &gt;The primary mission of 3P is to publish ideas and analysis that assist in the development of an economic system that serves the many, not the few. </code></pre> Some article titles:<p><pre><code> &gt;Tackling Inequality Through the Social Ownership of Capital &gt;Capitalism is hostile to families. The welfare state can fix that. &gt;The Difficulty of Using the Firm in Socialist Policy </code></pre> With this as context, it&#x27;s pretty easy to see that the thread&#x27;s post is clearly anti-capitalist, socialist propaganda, with a heavy political agenda to make people mad at &quot;the rich&quot; and support overthrowing &quot;the system.&quot;
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RickJWagneralmost 6 years ago
Maybe so. But the poor of today (at least in the US, which the article is about:<p>- Have smart phones (entertainment)<p>- Have climate controlled housing<p>- Have better food than the poor of 1989<p>- Have fewer diseases and live longer than their 1989 counterparts<p>- etc.<p>It&#x27;s not fun being poor, but there&#x27;s never been a better time.<p>In a similar way, the rich don&#x27;t live <i>that much</i> better than the next lowest classes. A middle class home feels more like a McMansion than the rich&#x2F;poor housing comparison of 1989.
sicularsalmost 6 years ago
So, like, everyone gets the same return in the market - say 5% S&amp;P500 avg return - and so the total return on more money is more than the return on less money, because math.<p>1.05x100&lt;1.05x1000<p>And, of course, we all know those with capital get better returns on everything and access to all opportunities. Hence the rich get richer. But that&#x27;s life and math. So?
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