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i386 architecture will be dropped starting with Ubuntu 19.10

130 pointsby jcastroalmost 6 years ago

17 comments

BonesJusticealmost 6 years ago
The headline makes it sound like they&#x27;re dropping support for just the i386 architecture (as opposed to other x86 architectures, e.g., i686). The linked article makes it sound like they&#x27;re dropping support for the 32-bit x86 platform entirely.<p>Are Ubuntu&#x27;s 32-bit x86 packages limited to those targeting the i386 instruction set? As in, &quot;we ship x64, or ancient i386, but nothing in between&quot;?<p>Or do they use the i386 moniker used as an umbrella for all x86 architectures?
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seabrookmxalmost 6 years ago
Random question.. they use i386 as their internal name.. but you can&#x27;t actually run it on an Intel 386 right? I was under the impression that modern Linux kernels needed a Pentium Pro or newer.. meaning i586 or i686 would be more accurate?
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Wowfunhappyalmost 6 years ago
I&#x27;m a little confused by the FAQ post in the linked article. Some of the questions make it sound like 32 bit <i>software</i> will also stop working? Are the compatibility packages going away too?<p>This would have some crappy implications for Wine and games in particular.
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danmgalmost 6 years ago
How will this impact Wine users who rely on 32 bit libraries to run 32 bit windows programs?
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timw4mailalmost 6 years ago
Shed a tear for the Winchips, and Cyrixes that will never be useful again.
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nottorpalmost 6 years ago
So long, my Atom D2500 homebrew router.<p>Say, what&#x27;s the state of fanless dual (or even triple) NIC boards these days? Intel network chips please, the CPU can be whatever. It looks like I need one that does 64 bit before 18.04 runs out of support.<p>Edit: x86_64 CPU please, not ARM.
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iamcreasyalmost 6 years ago
Bryan kept a track of what flavors have dropped i386 from their images. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bryanquigley.com&#x2F;pages&#x2F;papers&#x2F;ubuntu-drop-i386.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bryanquigley.com&#x2F;pages&#x2F;papers&#x2F;ubuntu-drop-i386.html</a>
Hydraulix989almost 6 years ago
Steam is 32-but only, I wonder what will happen?
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craftomanalmost 6 years ago
Am I the only one who gets emotional here? I remember when I installed Linux Ubuntu 7.x on my first laptop (which it&#x27;s still working in perfect condition). Truth is, I don&#x27;t use this laptop anymore but I always wanted to install the latest Ubuntu just for the flash backs.
arsalmost 6 years ago
I have a 64-bit machine but I&#x27;m running 32-bit Debian because there&#x27;s no good upgrade path, and I really don&#x27;t want to reinstall because that would take a months to get everything set up again.<p>I&#x27;m running Debian not Ubuntu, but the absolute minimum they owe their users is an automatic upgrade path.
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pmarinalmost 6 years ago
&gt;There is lack of support in the upstream Linux kernel, toolchains, and web browser<p>Except firefox who become useless on 32 Bit after quantum I don’t have any problem with Debian on my netbooks. I am really curious about the “lack of support” in the kernel, Any idea?
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muterad_murilaxalmost 6 years ago
I assume the same goes for the more lightweight Ubuntu-based distros Xubuntu and Lubuntu? What are som good alternatives to these that will continue to run on older 32-bit machines?
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listicalmost 6 years ago
Are there other Linux distributions left that still support i386?
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bArrayalmost 6 years ago
Why are they dropping i386? Surely 32 bit Ubuntu is still very much in demand in developing Countries or for people wanting to get old machines running with &quot;okay&quot; hardware? I can still get my IBM T22 to load a lightweight browser and navigate the internet.<p>The kernel still supports i386 and surely it&#x27;s not that much effort to make sure Gnome and the various packages compile for it? They still plan to support 32 bit ARM systems?
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Newtonipalmost 6 years ago
Dammit! My LAN server is an old 32-bit only Pentium4 running Ubuntu.
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CondensedBrainalmost 6 years ago
For some reason I thought this happened a long time ago.
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shmerlalmost 6 years ago
I hope Debian will drop x86_32 distro too, and finally will support 32-bit multiarch properly as a forced consequence. Cross-compiling 32-bit Mesa on 64-bit Debian is a major pain, due to multiarch being incomplete, multilib not working and so on.<p>UPDATE: Looks like Ubuntu isn&#x27;t dropping just the distro - they want to drop multiarch packages as well. That&#x27;s already nasty.
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