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Hackers are stealing years of call records from hacked cell networks

223 pointsby saravana85almost 6 years ago

11 comments

patrickhogan1almost 6 years ago
There is truth that CDR data is valuable. The problem with this article is the hyperbole the researchers use to describe the data.<p>1. Researcher says CDR contains all the raw data you send. False. It contains call detail records. Not your internet traffic. Not your Facebook calls. Not your icloud or WhatsApp messages.<p>2. The researchers here fail to share who was targeted and share almost no verifiable data to confirm what they found. Anyone could claim to have found a hack like they claim and get credit without providing any details to draw a big headline.<p>Seems like marketing not research.
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maze-lealmost 6 years ago
If the data hadn&#x27;t been collected in the first place, it wouldn&#x27;t be used against us. Data austerity is the best form of data protection. In this case the state mandates the data hoarding of telco providers, which makes it even worse.
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Jonnaxalmost 6 years ago
It&#x27;s easy to say that &quot;oh, phone calls have no security at all, what do you expect?&quot;<p>It&#x27;s true that we can talk to friends and family with internet services.<p>But for businesses we use our phones. Personally I don&#x27;t think I would affected if my call records were given to anyone or leaked.<p>But I can think of scenarios where it could be really damaging to someone.<p>Like imagine a celebrity was having cancer treatment they didn&#x27;t want people to know. Their call.records get leaked to a tabloid who infer their calls to a clinic mean that they have cancer and run an article.<p>I can imagine that would be a painful experience.
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ryeguy_24almost 6 years ago
Is this why we receive spammer phone calls that come from numbers that we have a history of dialing? I assume this is still happening because I visited Nashville for the first time this year and must have called a restaurant or two for reservations there. Now, I get a ton of Nashville spammer calls among the usual area codes that they always hit me with. Pretty curious.
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ga-vualmost 6 years ago
Some IOCs would have been nice. At this point, all of this seems like a fairytale from a cybersecurity firm looking for press coverage.
DigitalTerminalalmost 6 years ago
Why are they even keeping years of call records? This strikes me as something that should be deleted after the current billing cycle (plus a delay for complaints, say 12 months). This kind of just-in-case or I-don&#x27;t-want-to-push-the-button retention of data should hopefully be given some disincentives by GDPR but there is still a hell of a lot too much of it going on. Storage is cheap doesn&#x27;t mean keep everything forever, especially potentially sensitive personal data.
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ryeguy_24almost 6 years ago
I bet at least someone is using this data for trading as it is likely an indicator of revenue&#x2F;profit for quarterly earnings.
exabrialalmost 6 years ago
Shenote: sms auth is not even remotely secure. Let&#x27;s move on.
bawanaalmost 6 years ago
so that&#x27;s why I&#x27;m getting a crapton of robocalls now?!
julienreszkaalmost 6 years ago
We all knew this was going to happen&#x2F;is happening.<p>&#x27;I have nothing to hide from the government&#x27; yeah what about the mafia, criminals and such that could&#x2F;will access the data?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;06&#x2F;25&#x2F;nsa-att-intercept-surveillance&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;06&#x2F;25&#x2F;nsa-att-intercept-surveill...</a>
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lawnchair_larryalmost 6 years ago
Something seems off about this story and the way it’s presented. And techcrunch is an odd choice, unless everyone else passed on it.
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