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Welcome to the K-12 Surveillance State

179 pointsby mindgam3almost 6 years ago

10 comments

thatfrenchguyalmost 6 years ago
Is there any data on how being recorded at all times affects the behavioral development of those children ? Adults definitely behave differently when they know they are monitored (I personally know I do), so I wonder what kind of mental health issues would hide in those children if they are monitored at all times... I also feel like using this to prevent bullying or suicides is the wrong option, as educating kids themselves would probably be a more sensible idea (but hey you need teaching personnel that’s decently paid for that !).<p>It’s interesting that this surveillance is banned in France because teachers and pupils have « a right to privacy »: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnil.fr&#x2F;fr&#x2F;la-videosurveillance-videoprotection-dans-les-etablissements-scolaires" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnil.fr&#x2F;fr&#x2F;la-videosurveillance-videoprotection-...</a>
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LocalHalmost 6 years ago
It&#x27;s interesting the parallels that can be drawn to <i>tobacco addiction</i>, of all things. Hook &#x27;em while they&#x27;re young, and they won&#x27;t think anything about expanding the surveillance when <i>they&#x27;re</i> in power, because it&#x27;s what they&#x27;re used to, so why not if it can protect people?
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csoursalmost 6 years ago
If you ask the government to do something impossible, such as provide COMPLETE safety and security, they will try to do that. I think the news media bears some responsibility in this regard, as they always blame or call out whatever agency that fails to maintain safety and security, thus leading to severe measures to try to mitigate the previous failure.
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klodolphalmost 6 years ago
Before we had children misclassified as threats by errant algorithms, we misclassified them with people. There were a bunch of zero-tolerance policies passed in the early 2000s, and they often provided no path to understand or appeal the decision to label a child as a threat.
panzaglalmost 6 years ago
Since I can&#x27;t read the article I can only go with story time here- my wife has cameras in her room and she loves them. Fights about &#x27;who started it&#x27; are ended with the words, &#x27;Ok, let&#x27;s look at the video&#x27;. And when some little bully gets called on the carpet and their bullying parent comes in all set to steamroller administration with &#x27;that&#x27;s not what my child said happened why are you picking on them&#x27; the principal just rolls the footage and watches as the realization that their kid is a little shit dawns on the parent.
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tastygreenapplealmost 6 years ago
The surveillance is less than worthless when schools are so constrained in their ability to meter out discipline. I went to one of the first surveillance schools in my state and I was bullied relentlessly, despite the video evidence the school was reluctant to suspend my attacker. This may be because my bully was black and from the hood and my school was sued by the NAACP to accept more black kids and keep the suspension rate &#x27;racially equitable&#x27; - which amounted to different punishments depending on the race of the rule breaker.
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opwieurposiualmost 6 years ago
Currently trying to decide how to school my kids ages 3yr and 1yr. Public, private or homeschool. Parents who have been there, How did you choose?
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masswerkalmost 6 years ago
Archived article: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;nD0O9" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;nD0O9</a>
zeulhexalmost 6 years ago
What kind of society will we live in when the generation raised in this environment is in charge?
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cjalmost 6 years ago
The paywalls on all major news sites are driving me crazy.<p>Not because they cost money (I am willing to pay), but because it&#x27;s not practical to buy an online subscription to 10+ major news sites individually.<p>Is there a service that lets you pay 1 monthly fee for a subscription to the top 10 major (paywalled) news sites?
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