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Amazon confirms it keeps your Alexa recordings basically forever

76 pointsby giladalmost 6 years ago

8 comments

dayvidalmost 6 years ago
We’re moving from getting services for free that are taking all of our data to paying for services that are taking all of our data.<p>It’s honestly ridiculous and only government intervention will prevent this from getting out of hand.
dawhizkidalmost 6 years ago
Alexa feels like like one of those devices that everyone (tech &amp; non-tech people alike) understand to be an always-on recording device, and a proof point that many people do, in fact, choose convenience over privacy.
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peteyPetealmost 6 years ago
I get that there should be logs.. for debugging and feature tracking etc... I don&#x27;t think its reasonable for the &quot;voice&quot; to be stored and available to 3rd parties. The system beyond speech to text doesn&#x27;t respond to voice, it responds to text. So couldn&#x27;t they just have the logs of the commands put into the system in text? And once the voice is converted + is processed to make the system better, automatically deleted? The voice should only be accessible by the amazon core service responsible for speech to text, the voice shouldn&#x27;t leave that system, and again, once in text, the text, or commands, can be logged &#x2F; shared with relevant &quot;skills&quot; providers, since they&#x27;d have logs of your interactions with their systems anyways.
lukeschlatheralmost 6 years ago
This is obviously bad, but I think the deeper problem is with Android that it&#x27;s impossible to turn off the long-home-button press behavior. The wiretapping statutes really need to be updated to cover &quot;negligent wiretapping&quot; and require manufacturers to provide an opt-out toggle that prevents it.<p>Alexa speakers, of course, are surveillance devices and if you have it on it seems fair to say you have opted in.
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skybrianalmost 6 years ago
In other words, they don&#x27;t have a way for consumers to set a retention policy, like businesses typically do for email. You have to delete things manually.<p>It seems pretty clear that there are lots of people who want this and I&#x27;d be surprised if more companies don&#x27;t start doing it. Snapchat made its name with auto-deleting videos.
resoluteteethalmost 6 years ago
They have tons of people working full time to classify the recordings to use as training data. Of course they aren&#x27;t going to delete them automatically and waste millions of dollars of work.
greenyodaalmost 6 years ago
Discussion from yesterday: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=20342917" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=20342917</a>
remote_phonealmost 6 years ago
What about Google and Nest videos? Are those kept forever as well?