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After man says dog dewormer cured his cancer, researchers look into treatment

139 pointsby jimmckin1almost 6 years ago

10 comments

izuchukwualmost 6 years ago
It does appear that anti-cancer effects have been discovered in research in both Fenbendazole [0][1][2], the treatment that he used, as well as related anti-helmintics like Flubendazole [3], specifically when paired with certain vitamins like Vitamin E rather than when administered alone.<p>Flubendazole’s particularly interesting as it’s already FDA-approved for human use.<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;pmc&#x2F;articles&#x2F;PMC2687140&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;pmc&#x2F;articles&#x2F;PMC2687140&#x2F;</a> [1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nature.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;s41598-018-30158-6" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nature.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;s41598-018-30158-6</a> [2]:<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ucsf.edu&#x2F;news&#x2F;2017&#x2F;03&#x2F;406321&#x2F;deworming-pill-may-be-effective-treating-liver-cancer" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ucsf.edu&#x2F;news&#x2F;2017&#x2F;03&#x2F;406321&#x2F;deworming-pill-may-...</a> [3]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;m&#x2F;pubmed&#x2F;25811972&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;m&#x2F;pubmed&#x2F;25811972&#x2F;</a>
apoalmost 6 years ago
This story is very poorly organized. The structure is especially bad for scientific subjects because crucial details can be obfuscated.<p>Take this one for example, which appears well into the article:<p>&gt; Part of Tippens’ treatment regimen was CBD.<p>Nowhere does the article describe in one place exactly what the treatment regimen was.<p>Was it just CBD + fenbendazole or other components? When did the CBD begin? Even the nature of the trial (?) that Tippens was part of (or not) during his cure is cloudy.
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tepidandroidalmost 6 years ago
Not to oversimplify the complexities of cancer or anything, but for some reason, Peter Hintjens’ (creator of zeromq) suspicions about the primary cause of his own cancer came to mind after reading this [1].<p><i>”As for not getting cancer… the probable cause in my case was a parasite called a liver fluke, which attaches to the bile duct and produces carcinogens. Nature is nice like that. The parasite comes from farmed fresh-water fish. The cancer I had is a major cause of death in SE Asia. I think it was cheap sushi that almost killed me.”</i><p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;hintjens.com&#x2F;blog:109" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;hintjens.com&#x2F;blog:109</a>
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jcimsalmost 6 years ago
This might be the paper from Johns Hopkins: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;pmc&#x2F;articles&#x2F;PMC2687140&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;pmc&#x2F;articles&#x2F;PMC2687140&#x2F;</a>
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wbhartalmost 6 years ago
I once saw a case on a conspiracy forum of a guy who claimed that taking worming tablets had cured his cancer. It wasn&#x27;t a clear case to me, as he&#x27;d also been taking traditional chemo. His doctors apparently told him that the worm tablets he was taking were harmless and he could go on taking them, but the doctor didn&#x27;t think it had any effect on his cancer.<p>The real issue I have with this sort of reporting is that the plural of anecdote is not data. If 1% of people with a given kind of cancer will survive, and some percentage of them take alternative medicines, then a smaller, but nonzero, percentage of people will believe they were cured by taking just about anything.<p>Controlled, double blind, randomized trials are the only way we can know whether these anecdotes have anything to them.
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sillypuddingalmost 6 years ago
[Speculation] This is interesting to me because Crohn’s Disease (and Inflammatory Bowel Disease in general) is known to respond to certain antibiotics such as Metronidazole and Ciprofloxacin [1]. Maybe a analogous action is at play here.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hopkinsmedicine.org&#x2F;inflammatory_bowel_disease_center&#x2F;about_ibd&#x2F;index.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hopkinsmedicine.org&#x2F;inflammatory_bowel_disease_c...</a>
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lazyjonesalmost 6 years ago
Seems to be the same as this: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.odditycentral.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;man-claims-cheap-dog-deworming-medicine-cured-his-terminal-cancer.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.odditycentral.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;man-claims-cheap-dog-dewo...</a><p>Apologies if this is stolen content etc. but I can&#x27;t read the original in the EU apparently.
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Spixelalmost 6 years ago
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sansnommealmost 6 years ago
Fun fact: there&#x27;s a vaccine for Lyme disease too.
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chiefalchemistalmost 6 years ago
Probably not a popular position here on HN but I&#x27;m becoming more and more intrigued by the power of a placebo. Furthermore, it&#x27;s possible we are often undermining a placebo&#x27;s power but telling ourselves it&#x27;s science and only science that can save us - even tho&#x27;, trust is, the placebo effect is very real.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theatlantic.com&#x2F;magazine&#x2F;archive&#x2F;2019&#x2F;05&#x2F;melanie-warner-the-magic-feather-effect&#x2F;586012&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theatlantic.com&#x2F;magazine&#x2F;archive&#x2F;2019&#x2F;05&#x2F;melanie...</a>
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