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Chaos in Hong Kong as hundreds of masked men assault protesters, journalists

368 pointsby thomasjoulinalmost 6 years ago

18 comments

crooalmost 6 years ago
There are a few good summary comments about the situation on &#x2F;r&#x2F;worldnews like:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;worldnews&#x2F;comments&#x2F;cg1sh2&#x2F;chaos_and_bloodshed_in_hong_kong_district_as&#x2F;euefgdk&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;worldnews&#x2F;comments&#x2F;cg1sh2&#x2F;chaos_and...</a><p>What I personally find astounding that the police were pulled out right before the fight, the 999 operators hanged up for the callers and nearby police stations were closed during the event.
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riffraffalmost 6 years ago
I am very curious, but worried, of the situation in HK.<p>Concretely, it seems HKers can protest as much as they want, but when push comes to shove, the PRC will just end up crushing them and the parts of democracy they still have.<p>I can&#x27;t imagine how they may get any other outcome. Even if I wish they could just gain independence, it seems unlikely, and it&#x27;s not like any foreign power would go to war to protect HK.
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keanzualmost 6 years ago
Excellent analysis here on HN:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=20492145" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=20492145</a><p>The Chinese and HK governments have realized they&#x27;ve lost the culture wars and public opinion so they&#x27;ve resorted to the tried and tested handbook of authoritarian governments, to create a cycle of violence to create justification for cracking down.<p>This is a provocation. Protesters will now counter arm themselves with similar bats and sticks, which in turn will give the police extra justification when they uncover &quot;weapons&quot;. It will be used by the Chinese domestic media as justification to crack down hard.
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spiderdevalmost 6 years ago
A co-worker of mine just returned from visiting mainland China. She said everyone she spoke to, did not know about the protests in Hong Kong. They had no idea that something was happening there.
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nabla9almost 6 years ago
Back to low-tech solutions like paid mobs to control the situation.<p>People in HK use Chinese apps and Chinese intelligence probably has comprehensive mass surveillance system in place, but it could not predict recent events. Chinese and HK leaders were caught by surprise.
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modi15almost 6 years ago
Seems to me this is Tiananmen part 2 unfolding before our eyes. And doesnt look like anyone will come to Hongkongs help.<p>Hoping India will step up and do something. Seems unlikely though.
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ryanlolalmost 6 years ago
Lots of footage with clear faces, shouldn’t be very difficult to put names next to those.<p>Does anyone know of any co-ordinated efforts to do so?
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jammygitalmost 6 years ago
Update: no arrests made of attackers<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hongkongfp.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;07&#x2F;22&#x2F;hong-kong-police-made-no-arrests-mob-assaulted-commuters-protesters-journalists-yuen-long&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hongkongfp.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;07&#x2F;22&#x2F;hong-kong-police-made-...</a>
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chvidalmost 6 years ago
Does these protest still have broad support?<p>It seems obvious that the HK administration is simply drawing out time and hoping the daily troubles the demonstrators are creating in time will kill their cause.
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bllguoalmost 6 years ago
this is bizarre to me. I don&#x27;t really see how this move makes sense for the CCP. Maybe I just wanted to think that things have changed since 1989..
ferestalmost 6 years ago
This is just too obvious and they tried to get attention, which isn&#x27;t really like what China gov would do. The HK gov&#x27;s announcement and action so far are de-escalating the situation, it just not making any sense to support&#x2F;allow such thing from happening. The aggressive protesters are only ones i could see benefits from it
bitLalmost 6 years ago
Triads made a deal with PRC? Couldn&#x27;t be better news for HKers! :-&#x2F;
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benj111almost 6 years ago
Is there a symbolism with the white? Or was it an arbitrary colour?<p>I believe Brown was chosen for the Nazi SA uniforms because they were cheap.
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not_a_cop75almost 6 years ago
Masked men -&gt; This is the new face of the communist party.
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hmx48almost 6 years ago
At what point do we stop calling it the Hong Kong Protests and instead call it the Hong Kong Riots?
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shuzheng407almost 6 years ago
you need to know the whole chain of events to understand what happened at Yuen Long last night. also you need to know the unique identity of Yuen Long in order to comprehend the situation. Yuen Long is a village of people from several big family names, they are all relatives in a way. have their own system and rules and really hate outsiders telling them what to do. in history, they fought with British, fought with Japanese, with government, HK government and Police then realize the best way is to allowing local&#x27;daddies&#x27;to run local affairs with minimum intervene,except serious crimes like rape, murders, drugs etc. Protesters dont get this, last week, they entered Yuen Long enforcing &#x27;democracy&#x27;, got told off and kicked out. Local warned, they dont want protesters in their area, if they come back ,YL locals will teach them a lesson about not to invade into others&#x27; community. but protesters took it as a challenge to their righteousness and claim they will &#x27;liberal&#x27; Yuen Long. Locals got super irritated and with gang history of this area, they are not afraid of confronting with anyone,violently or not. so, they did it as they have always done when outsiders disrespect them. local police did not stand by protesters. but take what happened during last few weeks, like an officer got a finger bitten off but then was criticized &#x27;excessive violence&#x27;etc. of course police have their own emotions, they are human beings after all, not robots. anyway, this is a tragic situation which is inevitable to happen , not after so many weeks of tolerance of violence and breaking law. the protesters once shouted at police asking them to disappear. and police disappeared. you call for lawlessness, then you have to live with lawlessness. you dont want to get punished by beating others, then you have to live with being beaten without anyone punished.
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0898almost 6 years ago
Could one make a case in favour of China&#x27;s one party system by likening it to Apple&#x27;s tightly integrated ecosystem?<p>I mean, people argue that technology works better when one system controls the hardware, the software and the ecosystem around it.<p>Could the same principle apply to human society? Which is an order of magnitude more complex than a piece of technology.<p>Again, I don&#x27;t know if this argument has been made before – or if it&#x27;s even one I&#x27;d want to make. But I&#x27;m just curious if this is something people say?
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AFascistWorldalmost 6 years ago
This follows protesters&#x27; siege of The Liaison Office of the Central People&#x27;s Government in the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region.<p>PS: I&#x27;m just stating a fact not endorsing anyone here. The &quot;siege&quot; of CCP office is a very bad move. They are hurting the face of the mainland, provided excuses and received the ruthless response this political machine was designed to do.
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