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Cargo ships that ‘liquefy’ (2018)

119 pointsby ClintEhrlichalmost 6 years ago

13 comments

killjoywasherealmost 6 years ago
This problem is well understood in naval architecture. Some good engineering articles:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Free_surface_effect" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Free_surface_effect</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Metacentric_height" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Metacentric_height</a><p>tl;dr version as I recall: keep holds either mostly full or mostly empty, make assymetric holds and tanks, and use baffles if you have no other options.
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dwateralmost 6 years ago
Reposted by the BBC from The Conversation: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;theconversation.com&#x2F;mystery-of-the-cargo-ships-that-sink-when-their-cargo-suddenly-liquefies-101158" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;theconversation.com&#x2F;mystery-of-the-cargo-ships-that-...</a><p>Discussion of the original article: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=17884382" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=17884382</a>
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crummyalmost 6 years ago
Is this the same process that doomed the supply rocket to Mark Watney in The Martian?
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err4ntalmost 6 years ago
This might be a stupid question - but could ships tug or tow their cargo, and let it roll around?
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ohazialmost 6 years ago
What about anti-slosh baffles?
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Scoundrelleralmost 6 years ago
&gt; about the possible liquefaction of the relatively new solid bulk cargo bauxite (an aluminium ore).<p>Is bauxite really new cargo? Or do they mean ship-operators need to be careful when switching to bauxite cargo?<p>And any particular reason for loading these cargoes with water? Why not dry?
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zcatalmost 6 years ago
video demonstrates this <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=zdyrQSypPBQ" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=zdyrQSypPBQ</a>
nbevansalmost 6 years ago
Why not pump the &#x27;water&#x27; out of the bulk into a separate containment vessel. This way the ship&#x27;s crew could neutralise the risk without reducing the weight of their cargo. When unloading they can give back the &#x27;water&#x27; component of the cargo separately. So the weight of the cargo is basically unchanged.
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ulrikrasmussenalmost 6 years ago
Can&#x27;t cargo hulls be compartmentalized to alleviate this? Or are the forces too great for this to be practical?
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rolltiidealmost 6 years ago
well that&#x27;s terrifying<p>the cargo containers should just vibrate the whole time to keep things in liquefied state throughout the whole trip.
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xyzzy_plughalmost 6 years ago
why on earth does bbc.com redirect to http from https??
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mlurpalmost 6 years ago
Interesting article, but the sporadic bolding of a few words is killing me:<p>&gt;The International Maritime Organisation <i></i>has codes<i></i> governing...
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JackFralmost 6 years ago
Add rice to the hold. Problem solved.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Mr._Midshipman_Hornblower" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Mr._Midshipman_Hornblower</a><p>&quot;Hornblower and the Cargo of Rice&quot;
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