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Contagion in Mass Killings and School Shootings (2015)

72 pointsby tysonznialmost 6 years ago

8 comments

ourmandavealmost 6 years ago
<i>While our analysis was initially inspired by the hypothesis that mass media attention given to sensational violent events may promote ideation in vulnerable individuals, in practice what our analysis tests is whether or not temporal patterns in the data indicate evidence for contagion, by whatever means.<p>In truth, and especially because so many perpetrators of these acts commit suicide, we likely may never know on a case-by-case basis who was inspired by similar prior acts, particularly since the ideation may have been subconscious.</i><p>But they do tend to leave behind a manifesto or social media history that can point to their thinking and influencing factors.
JordanFarmeralmost 6 years ago
This is a sad effect of national media attention (Click bait and headline bait). I watch the news sometimes and wonder if we&#x27;d all be better off if it didn&#x27;t exist...<p>Obligatory mention that There were more murders in Chicago this week and it gets no media headlines.
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Udikalmost 6 years ago
&quot;Several past studies have found that media reports of suicides and homicides appear to subsequently increase the incidence of similar events in the community, apparently due to the coverage planting the seeds of ideation in at-risk individuals to commit similar acts&quot;<p>I&#x27;ve suggested before on HN that active shooter drills- which are apparently widespread now in US schools- might be themselves a source of contagion. Because they provide exactly those &quot;seeds of ideation&quot;, both by simulating the events and by implicitly suggesting that these kind of occurrences are in the realm of possibilities and somehow expected.
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hjorthjortalmost 6 years ago
AFAICT the model seems fitted to historical data, and fit well. I&#x27;d be curious to see if they or anyone else kept tracing events using the model to check its predictive ability.
platzalmost 6 years ago
&gt; on average, mass killings involving firearms occur approximately every two weeks in the US<p>This seems significantly higher than what I&#x27;d think. Do most mass killings not make the news? How is this defined?
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newshortsalmost 6 years ago
Is this only happening in the United States?<p>How frequently is this happening in other countries?
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romaaeternaalmost 6 years ago
Things that we can do about this:<p>1) Firearm control - complicated political issue, with reasonable people on both sides of the issue. And even if there were federal (executive, legislative, and judicial) political unanimity on action (there is not and can&#x27;t be for decades), it remains a larger practical problem than in any country that has so far banned guns. State and city-level action has not proven very effective.<p>2) Political control and censorship - only a fraction of these killers seem to be radicalized, and they generally seem to be lone-wolves. It seems a course ripe for abuse.<p>3) Drug enforcement - it has been pointed out that almost all of these killers have addiction problems of some kind. Anti-depressants may also play a role. But drug use seems too tenuous a connection, and these substances are used by such a broad swath of the population without this effect, that it would be hard to fix this with drug enforcement alone.<p>4) Psychological intervention - could the right sort of intervention at the right time avert these killings? It&#x27;s hard to believe not, but since we can&#x27;t predict the killings, we can&#x27;t do much here. But if we had better knowledge, it&#x27;s possible to imagine something as simple as voluntary social media guidelines (for 24-hour news, Google, Twitter, Facebook, etc.), that might alleviate the problem. Or something far more heavy handed and open to abuse or misuse, including high school psychological testing and reporting, mandatory social services checkups, etc.<p>If I were an engineer tasked with solving this problem, I would try the full-court press solution on all of these, rather than fixating on any one component.<p>Solution &quot;4&quot; is the most interesting to me, because it seems the least explored, and the place where increased knowledge and new techniques could possibly have the greatest effect. I think that we should be especially interested in how exactly people become killers, whether there are multiple types (there certainly are), and what are the necessary stages in the process. Studies like this are especially vital and interesting to me, and we need to spend far more effort on this type of research.<p>The biggest danger that I can see is that political and emotional energy on the impossible solutions prevent useful action anywhere.<p>EDIT: More on this study. The nice data fit on their contagion equation is very interesting because it begs to be expanded. The &quot;contagion&quot; is mediated by the media somehow. Is it as simple as reading stories about other shootings leading to more? Or is there a media climate effect? What other types of media can lead to shootings, etc. It would be tremendously helpful to learn enough to be psychologically precise about all of this.
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MobileVetalmost 6 years ago
It is very telling that supporters of the 2nd think it should be upheld without ANY limits or backstops.<p>Freedom of speech is not absolute, why in the world should owning a device intended to kill be unlimited?
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