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America’s social-media addiction is getting worse

143 pointsby seagullzalmost 6 years ago

20 comments

jumbopapaalmost 6 years ago
The biggest concern to me is the attention span most people have today. They can&#x27;t go longer than a few minutes without checking their phone. It impacts work and leisure. An assignment at work is delayed or low quality because you checked your phone every few minutes, you don&#x27;t understand what&#x27;s happening in a TV show&#x2F;movie because you kept checking your phone, you can&#x27;t get interested in a good book because you can&#x27;t read more than a page or two without checking your phone.<p>I am guilty of this behavior myself and it&#x27;s something that I&#x27;ve been working on a lot lately. I recognize that this is a problem, but I don&#x27;t really support the government saving us from ourselves. I think this is something that average person just needs to educate themselves on and make the decision for themselves. It&#x27;s not impossible to break free from it.<p>I highly suggest everyone checkout Digital Minimalism by Cal Newport. It&#x27;s a fantastic read.
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malvosenioralmost 6 years ago
&gt; <i>On July 30th the junior senator from Missouri unveiled the “Social Media Addiction Reduction Technology Act”, or SMART Act. The bill would limit social-media usage to half an hour a day (users would be able to bypass the limit by adjusting their app settings). It would also ban addictive features, such as “infinite scroll” (when a user’s entire feed can be seen in one visit) and “autoplay” (when online videos load automatically one after another).</i><p>We should never let the government dictate UI through laws. It’s shocking that it’s even being proposed.
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rohan1024almost 6 years ago
I&#x27;m pretty sure India&#x27;s is worst but nobody is performing these kind of studies in India. We will learn damages when it&#x27;s too late.<p>It&#x27;s exactly like pollution nobody gives a damn here about it. This is going offtopic but check pollution data for India its same as that of China. At least China has proper facilities for measuring the air quality.
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pjc50almost 6 years ago
How about America&#x27;s TV addiction, or even talk-radio addiction? Or even, you know, the actual <i>addiction</i> addiction of the opiate crisis?
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maxwellitoalmost 6 years ago
I don&#x27;t find the data precise enough to make conclusions. Yes, we spend more time on social apps, but it&#x27;s also our main way of communication. I wouldn&#x27;t be surprised to know that 80% of the time spend is in private conversations. We are just switching from classic apps (SMS, email, WhatsApp) to messaging in social media apps.
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afarrellalmost 6 years ago
One important part of solving this is allowing apps which provide the ability for an individual to bind his future actions. If there should be any government policy, it should be to make these tools which help augment individuals&#x27; own strivings for self-discipline.<p>It would be really nice if Apple would re-allow content-blocking apps on the iPhone.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.freedom.to&#x2F;en&#x2F;articles&#x2F;2259444-freedom-app-store-removal-status" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.freedom.to&#x2F;en&#x2F;articles&#x2F;2259444-freedom-app-s...</a><p>It would also be nice if someone would develop a subscription service like SelfControl.app, but which took recurring payments in order to support an engineer making continual improvements. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;SelfControlApp&#x2F;selfcontrol&#x2F;issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;SelfControlApp&#x2F;selfcontrol&#x2F;issues?q=is%3A...</a><p>-------<p>By the way, there exists some similar fintech for substance addictions: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.creditcards.com&#x2F;credit-card-news&#x2F;next_step-card-recovering-addicts-debt-1273.php" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.creditcards.com&#x2F;credit-card-news&#x2F;next_step-card-...</a>
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gedyalmost 6 years ago
I went to Disneyland for the first time in 20+ years and it struck me how much people stare into phones. In lines of course, but also in the middle of rides? Just didn&#x27;t seem healthy, like we are running a huge social experiment which eliminates talking and paying attention to those around you.
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brigaalmost 6 years ago
And if these companies had their way users would be spending every waking minute on their platform, collecting that sweet sweet ad revenue. That&#x27;s what happens when primary business success metrics are engagement and hundreds of micro-experiments are run every day to make these platforms addictive as possible.
5trokerac3almost 6 years ago
Imagine a Star Trek episode where they go to a planet were everyone is staring at a personal device and not interacting with each other. That&#x27;s what walking into a bar in 2019 is like.<p>We&#x27;re living in the part of the dystopian movie, in the beginning, where they explain the timeline of how everything got so bad.
lota-puttyalmost 6 years ago
Addictions are good for business.<p>Addictions are predictable &amp; can be channelled to make profit. Like they say, &quot;Make hay while the Sun shines&quot;. Whole private business community rides on such waves of addictions(good&#x2F;bad).<p>Some successful businessmen with guilty conscience do charity.
nottorpalmost 6 years ago
Is Youtube a social site now?<p>I think it should go in the other corner where it says &#x27;TV Addiction&#x27;...
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faissalooalmost 6 years ago
My solution to this problem is simply that these websites shouldn&#x27;t exist. A network of more than a thousand or so people can&#x27;t reasonably give you any real sense of community. All these sites have a commonality: they are ad supported, so in order to end this the consumer ad industry must be collapsed, block ads and avoid purchasing products advertised to you. Once the ad industry is collapsed such sites will either be paid for or will be setup to facilitate a genuine need. This will maximise the benefits and avoid creating a constant stream of broadly irrelevant and useless information.
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jake2110almost 6 years ago
Regulation the usage of private websites and something as specific as infinite scroll on an app is ridiculous. I understand we regulate things like cigarettes and alcohol, but I absolutely hate the idea of government getting involved in regulations of software and the internet. I just don&#x27;t personally think that if I&#x27;m going through multiple private businesses (phone manufacturer, ISP, social network) that I should be restricted by government regulation on something as mundane as spending too much time on Reddit.<p>That being said, that&#x27;s my personal opinion.
scarejunbaalmost 6 years ago
Yeah, people are in touch with each other. I’m glued to my phone on transit because I’m catching up with my friends who I haven’t seen in days, something I can’t do at work. Fucking insufferable, the paternalism.
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chaoticmassalmost 6 years ago
I helped crack down on my own social media usage by getting a feature phone for calling and a really cheap low-end smart phone ($40) for those times when I really need an app for something.
luckylionalmost 6 years ago
Are they using social media more and more additionally to watching TV, or is it shifting more towards social media? And if it is: is social media worse than TV, and why?
rolltiidealmost 6 years ago
The use cases expand and contract year over year, iterating towards ones that create longer sessions without necessarily being dopamine like addictions<p>Just pointing out that people merely use a service for X minutes doesn&#x27;t tell what people are doing<p>Over the last year the instagram service added IGTV, which can be replacing TV and youtube for some people, for example<p>These can be completely exempt from the messed up frustrating picture feeds and the use case of attracting likes.
Youcandothisalmost 6 years ago
It&#x27;s strange that people still believe in internet addiction.
ryanmerceralmost 6 years ago
I applied to the most recent winter YC batch with the idea of, I want to help people put tech down and plug back into the world. Sadly, they weren&#x27;t interested as it won&#x27;t make 1 billion dollars in a few years for them to make bank on.<p>I think purely the attention companies get at demo day would have been a very powerful thing and I know there are countless tech types the world around that are fed up with technology in front of them all the time (and it&#x27;s nothing new, I knew a programmer in the late 90s that got rid of his computer, then his game consoles, then his television because he just didn&#x27;t want to be around the stuff outside of work). I mean, look at how many CS types buy hobby farms or talk about someday buying hobby farms. Look at a lot of the van life and tiny home types, same kinda thing.<p>I would love to help people take a step away from tech, if anything just to help myself.<p>Here&#x27;s a snippet of something I wrote in 2017, it&#x27;s probably the first time I really put thought into ME and tech<p>&gt;In 1995 when I discovered the internet we got 60 hours a month, shortly after we got 120 hours a month. If the weather was nice you didn&#x27;t give a shit about the internet, you were outside. If the weather was bad you&#x27;d connect to the internet, get lost in the text of a MUD. I remember the first time I saw an image on a website, the first time I saw video on a computer.<p>Here&#x27;s another bit, this grows and evolves in me almost daily<p>&gt;I&#x27;ve got 21st century burnout. I&#x27;m not alone, I know I&#x27;m not. I&#x27;ve got two friends that are of a similar mind. I want to live in a world where community is a thing, where life is simple, where the only real concerns are who&#x27;s bringing what to the block party or what book I want to read next.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ryanmercer.com&#x2F;ryansthoughts&#x2F;2017&#x2F;2&#x2F;13&#x2F;i-miss-the-20th-century" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ryanmercer.com&#x2F;ryansthoughts&#x2F;2017&#x2F;2&#x2F;13&#x2F;i-miss-th...</a><p>What&#x27;s really crazy is just look at video games, the time we spend in video games is dumbfounding<p>&gt;ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY SIX BILLION HOURS A YEAR. That&#x27;s 17,808,219 man-YEARS spent on video games annually. 17 million years wasted every year playing video games. Seventeen MILLION.<p>I break that out, using great works we&#x27;ve done, to show what we might accomplish if we just put down video games<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ryanmercer.com&#x2F;ryansthoughts&#x2F;2016&#x2F;8&#x2F;2&#x2F;humanitys-end-the-time-we-waste-on-virtual-lives" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ryanmercer.com&#x2F;ryansthoughts&#x2F;2016&#x2F;8&#x2F;2&#x2F;humanitys-...</a><p>And that doesn&#x27;t include the obscene amounts of time people, hell I, spend on Instagram, Facebook, HN, Reddit, Tinder-like apps, sending gifs and memes in a dozen message&#x2F;chat threads.<p>We&#x27;ve gotta do something about this.
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Theodoresalmost 6 years ago
This is quite a visible moral panic as we can see people glued to their phones in public places, e.g. on the train or bus.<p>I am not a Facebook person myself but I see no harm in someone spending their time commuting on a train using Facebook instead of something more worthy, e.g. reading a newspaper.<p>Behind closed doors people plug in to regular TV programming and spend hours on games consoles. There are only so many hours in the day and people who spend hours on social media are spending less time watching regular TV.<p>Instead of moral panic we need some better numbers. For instance we have unemployment numbers, we could also do with numbers of how many people lost their lives to Facebook&#x2F;X-Boxes&#x2F;YouTube&#x2F;trawling Wikipedia this month.
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