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What Fruits and Vegetables Looked Like Before We Domesticated Them

87 pointsby shawndumasalmost 6 years ago

8 comments

9nGQluzmnq3Malmost 6 years ago
There&#x27;s also an interesting comparison to Australian &quot;bush tucker&quot; (native foods), which have been eaten by Aboriginals for thousands of years but <i>not</i> systematically cultivated and bred:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Bush_tucker" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Bush_tucker</a><p>Surprise surprise, more or less all bush fruit are small, have large seeds&#x2F;stones, and taste inoffensive but rarely delicious. I wonder what a bush plum or lilly-pilly would look &amp; taste like after 4,000 years of systematic breeding?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Carissa_spinarum" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Carissa_spinarum</a> (bonus: poisonous when unripe)<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Syzygium_smithii" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Syzygium_smithii</a>
mark-ralmost 6 years ago
Very interesting article that shows how far we&#x27;ve come. But I was completely turned off by the undertone of &quot;GMO is OK, we&#x27;ve been doing it forever&quot;. Actual gene editing has so much more potential, not just for beneficial changes but for inadvertent catastrophes. What happens when GMO creates a mistake on the order of Thalidomide?
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9nGQluzmnq3Malmost 6 years ago
The original domesticated carrots were purple, and these remain the default carrot in parts of the world (eg. much of northern India).<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Carrot#History" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Carrot#History</a>
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gyuserbtialmost 6 years ago
The watermelon example is incorrect. That started as a posting on social media and shortly after there were corrections by botanists and agricultural experts. The watermelon in the painting is an example of a pathology that still occurs in modern watermelon.
Xceleratealmost 6 years ago
I find these wild fruits and vegetables fascinating. Does anyone know where you could find&#x2F;buy&#x2F;grow these to taste them, out of curiosity?
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dekhnalmost 6 years ago
teosinte, the ancestor of maize, still grows in Mexico and is occasionally harvested by indigenous peoples. There was some very nice work done by Beadle (&quot;one gene, one enzyme&quot;) and Mcclintock (&quot;jumping genes&quot;) to uncover the historical relationship and it&#x27;s quite impressive to see what 10K years of selective breeding can do.
SimeVidasalmost 6 years ago
It’s good that the article includes images of the modern counterparts, you know, for Gen Z. (joke)
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dwdalmost 6 years ago
Long term there should be no difference between traditional breeding and GMO outcomes. (traditional just operates at the maximum pace and incremental change nature allows)<p>GMO is a issue only where turning a short term profit overrides giving the mutation time for natural attrition to weed out any potential issues.<p>The thing is, both can lead to bad outcomes: susceptibility to disease and inability to breed from seed are common issues as a result of selective breeding.
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