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Homeless People Don’t Need an App, They Need a Fucking House

45 pointsby jamesknelsonalmost 6 years ago

10 comments

jamesknelsonalmost 6 years ago
&gt; The founder of WeCount, a tech entrepreneur who has sold multiple companies to Google, raves to the press about the “huge emotional ROI” (return on investment) donors get from participating.<p>It sounds like these apps aren&#x27;t designed to help the homeless in the first place. They&#x27;re designed to help people with spare change feel a little better about themselves.<p>This seems even worse than trying to make a difference to the housing situation and failing. Along with the idea of requiring homeless people to wear a beacon around their neck to pick up scraps from the wealthy, it sounds dehumanizing. Almost like the romans and their coliseum?<p>I&#x27;d love to hear the perspective of any people who&#x27;ve used these apps from the receiving end though. Maybe it&#x27;s not as bad as it sounds.
navsalmost 6 years ago
&gt; Users can then read the profile of the beacon-wearer, and donate money if they’re so moved. Donations can be redeemed at select stores and restaurants. They cannot be used to buy alcohol. The beacon-wearer must check in monthly at a participating nonprofit, or else their beacon is disabled.<p>Soon there will be multiple agencies that helps homeless individuals build the most marketable profile and increase &quot;Donation conversions&quot;.<p>I don&#x27;t know much about homelessness and I don&#x27;t have a solution to the problem but this whole process of only being able to redeem donations at selected locations feels inhuman. We can&#x27;t trust the homeless so we&#x27;ll donate this amount but we say what you can use it for because we know better.<p>Again, I admit my naivety but I can&#x27;t help feeling there&#x27;s something fundamentally wrong with this approach.
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bsanr2almost 6 years ago
Most people&#x27;s ideas of how poverty works and how to get out of it are wrong.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.npr.org&#x2F;2017&#x2F;03&#x2F;20&#x2F;520587241&#x2F;the-scarcity-trap-why-we-keep-digging-when-were-stuck-in-a-hole" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.npr.org&#x2F;2017&#x2F;03&#x2F;20&#x2F;520587241&#x2F;the-scarcity-trap-w...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;99percentinvisible.org&#x2F;episode&#x2F;magic-bureaucrat-riverside-miracle&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;99percentinvisible.org&#x2F;episode&#x2F;magic-bureaucrat-rive...</a>
jerracalmost 6 years ago
Homeless people need a LOT more than a house. Every single one has their own story and circumstances. From what I have read about people who have made their way out of homelessness at my local Rescue Mission, it was a multistep, and long, road to get back to &quot;normal&quot;. One man spent years at the Mission. Just giving them a house would not have saved them.
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DoreenMichelealmost 6 years ago
I 100% (100,000%!) agree that we need to resolve our housing supply issues. It&#x27;s a major contributing factor to homelessness.<p>The rest, I mostly disagree.<p>The primary reason for the limitations on after donation use is because that&#x27;s how donations generally work. It isn&#x27;t a homeless thing.<p>People will not give you money or other assets if you don&#x27;t first tell them what will be done with it. If you don&#x27;t give them some control, most people won&#x27;t give you anything at all.<p>A lot of homeless people have complex issues. Yes, helping them really is more complicated than &quot;just give them a house!&quot;
ap3almost 6 years ago
Some homeless need homes, others need medical care, drug rehab, jobs or education<p>Some just need a second chance and a hand to be able to climb out of the hole they’re in<p>Others won’t be able to ever help themselves<p>Saying they “need homes” because they’re “home less” sounds so naive<p>Edit:<p>Everyone needs shelter and I hope a comprehensive solution could be implemented where anyone in need could find the type of shelter that is most helpful
flaxtonalmost 6 years ago
Give a bunch of homeless people homes they don’t work for, and they will trash them in short order. People don’t respect things they don’t work for. I suggest the author give up <i>their</i> house and show us how it goes! Instead of telling others how they want to take their money from them (that they worked for) to fund crazy liberal schemes.
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snvzzalmost 6 years ago
&gt;And that’s because it requires taxing the rich and redistributing our society’s wealth.<p>The article is right. But of course... I work hard so that I can pay for my home. The homeless should, too. His proposal is theft through tax.
purplezooeyalmost 6 years ago
&quot;The unspoken notion is that homeless people need help, but they also need to get their acts together.&quot;<p>I&#x27;m glad the author pointed this out. Our lame Puritanical values are far-reaching.
timtim51251almost 6 years ago
They don&#x27;t need a house. They have shelters and its known many if not most choose not to use them. So its their own fault.<p>Its well known in Los Angeles where we keep burning taxpayer money and the government officials keep making their friends rich by building more shelters that aren&#x27;t used. So its just a waste until we make it a crime for them to sleep on the street and loiter and harass people if there are shelters available. They just cause trouble and commit crimes, that&#x27;s what they do best.
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