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The world’s most-surveilled cities

56 pointsby cyanbaneover 5 years ago

11 comments

shoover 5 years ago
2.6 million cameras in Chongqing!? that number is mind-boggling. In fact it&#x27;s borderline unbelievable. How could any one organisation possibly use, process or even receive that much data?<p>I have questions about exactly where this data comes from. Does it include every single camera in the city, eg. security in shops or apartment buildings? Surely they&#x27;re not linked into the government.<p>Or are they all supposed to be some kind of &quot;smart&quot; cameras that detect and isolate faces, vehicles etc and then send only some kind of abstracted data back to the mothership? That sounds like the only manageable methodology. It also sounds unbelievably expensive.<p>This article raises more questions than answers.
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wil421over 5 years ago
Atlanta is the most surveilled city in the US. The local news had this on TV last week. They walked around and asked a bunch of random people what they thought. Every single person said they were fine with surveillance if it made things safer.
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davidhydeover 5 years ago
There is a very big difference between standard CCTV cameras and automated high resolution facial recognition ones. Standard CCTV is used to collect evidence when a crime has been committed. Automated facial recognition cameras are used for real time tracking. China makes extensive use of the facial recognition ones and London only has those near Kings Cross station (which has recently caused a public outcry). Source: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dezeen.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;08&#x2F;14&#x2F;kings-cross-facial-recognition-news&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dezeen.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;08&#x2F;14&#x2F;kings-cross-facial-recogni...</a>
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ourmandaveover 5 years ago
<i>A higher number of cameras just barely correlates with a higher safety index and lower crime index.</i><p>What about conviction rates? For example, a lot of shootings in Chicago go unsolved. Maybe for lack of a witness?
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goblin89over 5 years ago
Slightly tangential, but it’s interesting that Hong Kong’s safety index is higher than one of Singapore, considering the apparently-stricter overall regulations in the latter city. They don’t seem to disclose the sources for safety &amp; crime indices, though I assume they used a trustworthy source.<p>EDIT: They do credit the source to numbeo.com, which doesn’t rely on government stats (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.numbeo.com&#x2F;crime&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.numbeo.com&#x2F;crime&#x2F;</a>).
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lota-puttyover 5 years ago
These figures are per-capita in those cities; what about by per-sq-km?<p>Edit: Estimates always skew reality!
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bravuraover 5 years ago
I&#x27;m surprised to see Berlin on this list, which is generally a city that is very surveillance-averse. I live in Berlin and am not even aware of the presence of surveillance cameras. Any more information on this statistic?
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willis936over 5 years ago
Why is Taipei not on this list?<p>There are 13,000 cameras [1] for 2.7 million people [2].<p>1. <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.taipeitimes.com&#x2F;News&#x2F;taiwan&#x2F;archives&#x2F;2011&#x2F;04&#x2F;08&#x2F;2003500223" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.taipeitimes.com&#x2F;News&#x2F;taiwan&#x2F;archives&#x2F;2011&#x2F;04&#x2F;08&#x2F;2...</a><p>2. <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;worldpopulationreview.com&#x2F;world-cities&#x2F;taipei-population&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;worldpopulationreview.com&#x2F;world-cities&#x2F;taipei-populat...</a>
esotericnover 5 years ago
I wonder how they come up with these stats.<p>I have a security camera on my house. I don&#x27;t know how that would be captured in the statistics at all.
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keiferskiover 5 years ago
I’ve never seen this point made but: one response to the surveillance state is to push for more remote work. It’s infinitely easier to set up surveillance cameras in urban areas than in even a slightly rural area.
excaliburover 5 years ago
Looks like London has some catching up to do!
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