Edge's "IE Mode" is depressing. We fit exactly into the problem space it aims to solve (enterprise with a mix of both Java Applets and modern "internal" web sites that could target current web-standards if not for the Java Applets backlog).<p>The problem with "IE Mode" as implemented is that it only works for devices connected to AD/fully managed. Our "internal" sites (both Java Applet and modern) are externally accessible and via BYOD like a lot of enterprises today. Employees work from home. Employees work remotely.<p>I can see why "website list" would be their preferred solution to routing, but unfortunately it won't work for a lot of enterprises in 2019. We aren't using internal sites like 2005 anymore, they're "internal" only in name and function, they're very much externally accessible (even via VPN in some cases, but you aren't managing the actual device).
For what its worth, I have been running Edge Chromium for the last few months, and when I first installed it I thought it would have a bunch of bugs that forced me back to Chrome.<p>Nope. Its totally solid, and has completely supplanted Chrome on my Mac, including for web development (it has the same Chrome development tools).<p>Highly recommended - sort of like the VSCode of browsers in my opinion.
This is different from the Dev channel that they had opened up awhile back, in case anyone else gets confused as I did for a few moments.<p>I really like it. In my opinion, its the best version of Chrom(ium) you can get on Windows and Mac. Very snappy.<p>And they already have some neat developer tooling around it. There is a vscode extension to do live reloads with with it, and see/manipulate the DOM and do other debugging/measuring of your application.<p>Good work here!
Just noticed this is not hosted a microsoft.com URL as I was about to download. Is this thing above board? Any way to confirm that it's from Microsoft even though it's not their origin?
Preinstall and postinstall scripts for the Edge browser (macOS). Sudo-ing telemetry data.<p><a href="https://github.com/sizeofcat/microsoft-edge-macos-scripts/tree/master/MicrosoftEdgeBeta-77.0.235.9" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/sizeofcat/microsoft-edge-macos-scripts/tr...</a>
"The attributes that you say matter most in your browsing experience are performance, privacy, and reliability. So that is where we are starting."<p>Sounds good.
I am impressed with the options page and the site permissions page in particular. I ws able to set most preferences as I wanted fairly quickly. I was dissapointed that continue running background apps was enabled by default however. It feels like it would be reasonable to wait until I tried to use something that required it and only then bother asking me.<p>Edit: Whatever goodwill on settings was eaten up when change default search provider was hidden two levels deep, first under "Privacy and Services" and then under "Address Bar".<p>Edge team, you know full well most people will want to change this at first. It should have its own settings top level page, more or less in line with firefox.
So, no more "Add Notes" feature? That's what made me use Edge as my main browser on my personal machine. Being able to quickly save a page, add notes by hand using a stylus, is just great.
The download page says "Investing in open source", but it also says "Not supported for Linux". I'm going to take a guess that no other open source operating systems are supported either, unless you count Android.<p>Maybe they have a Linux or FreeBSD version in the works. From what I'm seeing right now, the new Microsoft supports open source, so long as you're on a proprietary platform. Should I be surprised?
Interesting that the download button says "Not supported for Linux" when you're using Linux. But what if I want to try this out on Windows, but use Linux to acquire the software? Sniffing the useragent and providing the relevant message is annoying for users, because if they want the software, they are going to find ways of acquiring it, regardless of the useragent sniff in place.<p>Note: I downloaded the beta version, and within 10 minutes of using it, it crashed. I reported the crash however so hopefully they can fix this
Yeah, I don't like it. I opened both old edge and this side by side with only this HN thread open. Scrolling on old feels way quicker... no white, un-rendered areas as in the chrome version when quickly jumping through the document. Memory usage went up 50ish percent (initially had committed a lot more, but it seems to by now have freed that half gig it used earlier). "Read aloud" TTS seems to read significantly slower on 2x speed than old edge (same voice). All of this before adding adblock to beta, but I'd expect this only makes it worse with nothing but HN open.<p>At least they kept some of the most garbage parts the same... like the addon store not even having a search function. Apparently not even sort beyond alphabetically. But that fits MS apparent mantra of dumbing down stuff so much as to make more advanced use-cases near impossible. And doesn't seems to have uBlock anyway, so who cares... I just hope I don't have to search a new trustworthy one once current edge is gone :(<p>Yeah, still a long way off from what I'd wish for...
Only way to make people switch is to make it privacy oriented like Safari now is... That would probably let Microsoft steal significant share away from Google. Privacy oriented Chrome, standards compliant, developer oriented. Do a 180 from the IE days which Google is now mimicking.
Does this meant that Chrome will be able to stream 1080p on the desktop in the future, or will only Microsoft's build of chromium be able to do that?<p>*Stream 1080p with Netflix, Amazon, etc.
The macOS download link at the bottom directs me to <a href="https://www.microsoftedgeinsider.com/en-us/{macos-link}" rel="nofollow">https://www.microsoftedgeinsider.com/en-us/{macos-link}</a><p>Is there somewhere else to find this?<p>EDIT - Use the "More platforms and channels" link under the big Windows download button, then the dropdown menus on that page to get the Mac version.
How do you change the new tab page?<p>You can set which page to open on startup, but you can't seem to override the page that shows when a new tab is created.
Does this have a level of telemetry comparable to that of Google Chrome? I've been looking for a Chromium-based alternative to Chrome and I'm still waiting. Vivaldi looks like it, but it's still a bit too rough around the edges to be used as a daily browser.