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Launch HN: Coursedog (YC W19) – Resource Planning Software for Higher Ed

61 pointsby jwenigover 5 years ago
Hi HN! I’m Justin Wenig, a co-founder of Coursedog (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.coursedog.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.coursedog.com</a>). We build enterprise resource-planning software for higher education, starting with schedule and curriculum planning. As of today, 40 universities such as Columbia and BYU use our platform to build their class schedule, manage degree programs and publish the catalog to students.<p>My co-founder Nick Diao and I were CS majors at Columbia. We were motivated but mediocre students, skipping class and constantly building sorta-used not-product-market-fit apps that never took off.<p>During our Junior year, we realized how difficult it was to register for the CS classes we wanted to take, and had the unspecific but weirdly prescient lightbulb moment that all university students have where they say &quot;wow university software sucks&quot;.<p>We reached out to Columbia University&#x27;s IT department and learned that most universities build their schedules with a combination of excel spreadsheets, manual horse&#x2F;brain&#x2F;caffeine-power and SQL reports to clean up inevitable errors. It seemed like an obvious opportunity to take a swing at a business.<p>We spent that summer working out of a sweaty lounge at Columbia, awkwardly cold-calling University Registrars and building a Vue&#x2F;Node web app to help universities optimize their class schedules. We utilized a mixed integer programming algorithm to optimize time and room assignments based on student + faculty preferences and space constraints, and reluctantly built a user interface for manual edits when university politics inevitably messed up our Moneyball-esque optimization. And we had bugs. Luckily for us, compared to the existing on-prem solutions and excel spreadsheets that could make the most dedicated investment banker blush, 40+ universities tolerated us enough to buy our $150K+ multi-year contract solution within a year and a half.<p>Although we’re focused on schedule and curriculum planning for now, it turns out that all higher education administration software is sort of very bad. Fun fact: There are 5 universities in the country on a cloud based enterprise resource planing solution. 5. As such, we feel pretty good about going down the line and rebuilding the whole thing from scratch: registration, advising, financials, all of it. That&#x27;s the long-term vision. If you might want to work on something like that, please get in touch. We&#x27;re hiring for the long term, but also right now 30 schools call us at all hours of the night, we launched 4 products this year and will be launching another 4 next year, and we could use engineers with brains that are more developed than ours.<p>Nick and I would like your feedback on all of the above, are happy to answer questions, and look forward to hearing about your experiences and ideas to improve university software. Fire away HN!

18 comments

leetroutover 5 years ago
I&#x27;m super interested in this because I&#x27;ve developed an opinion about software used in higher ed:<p>It. All. Sucks.<p>Not one piece of software I have used (Canvas, Sakai, Slate and numerous in-house tools) are easy to use or easy to integrate with. A group of students here at UNC created <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.coursicle.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.coursicle.com&#x2F;</a> which deals with the student scheduling side of things and actually looks pretty great but I&#x27;ve not used it. I&#x27;m sure you&#x27;ve seen it already.<p>I&#x27;m curious how many CIO&#x2F;CTOs have had concerns with moving to your system or if you&#x27;ve got a canned response for all the FERPA FUD that gets tossed around?
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Random_Personover 5 years ago
I work for a ... reseller&#x2F;host&#x2F;supporter... of various higher ed platforms (Banner&#x2F;Blackboard) and those systems make me sad. Glad to see someone disrupting the space! Good luck going forward! As a dev, I can&#x27;t imagine setting my sights on those targets. It seems overwhelming.
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gringoDanover 5 years ago
Congrats on selling into universities. That&#x27;s a tough market - long sales cycle, lots of bureaucracy, multiple decision-makers.
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Koffiepoederover 5 years ago
Hey Justin &amp; Nick,<p>Recently I have been experimenting a lot with optimization strategies and their performance&#x2F;results. I have tried to code some, including mixed integer LP, and applied them to multiple problems. I did this such that I could get a deeper understanding which sort of optimization algorithm is suited and well-performing for which kind of problem.<p>So far my results have been very inconsistent: sometimes genetic algorithms produce surprisingly good results, other times simulated annealing proves to be the clear winner, sometimes a plain old depth-first search, with a custom scoring heuristic produces greatest results... Since my results seem quite random to me so far, I get the impression that the only way to find out the best match for a problem is to try them all. Is this correct?<p>Since you&#x27;re using mixed integer programming, could I ask you why you chose this optimization strategy? Also, if you would happen to have some more information about the specifics of choosing a correct algorithm for an optimization problem, could you provide me some insights?<p>Anyways, good luck with Coursedog!
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dhimesover 5 years ago
Congratulations! I&#x27;ve been trying to crack the higher ed nut for a while with no luck whatsoever. And I used to be a professor- I&#x27;m solving a problem that I know exists, and that the people I talk to know exists! (I think the problem is partially that they don&#x27;t know what a solution looks like).<p>Hats off to you for getting this thing going so strong! It ain&#x27;t easy in that space, that&#x27;s for sure!
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justinkellyover 5 years ago
Congrats on the launch of Coursedog!<p>I work in HE in Australia and a number of unis have switched from manual&#x2F;xls to Akari [0]<p>A comparison page on your website with CourseDog vs X would be welcome – just so it’s easy to see what you provide vs the market<p>A scheduling tool that works with academic workload models (not sure if this is Australia specific thing) that optimises[1] academic and resource&#x2F;room allocation would be very welcome<p>* No. 1 complaint from students is class scheduling!<p>[0] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.akarisoftware.com&#x2F;index.cfm&#x2F;page&#x2F;solutions" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.akarisoftware.com&#x2F;index.cfm&#x2F;page&#x2F;solutions</a><p>[1] with multiple optimisation models<p><pre><code> - students want more classes at student friendly times that allow work+study - universities want less classes - academics want classes in work friendly hours etc...</code></pre>
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marcellover 5 years ago
Curious what is your sales process like. While these universities obviously would benefit from your solution, I also wonder to what degree they’re willing to move to a bette system, and if they’re willing to do it a a pace that works for you as a startup.
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friedeggover 5 years ago
If you haven&#x27;t looked at it, another big player in campus scheduling&#x2F;optimization is EMS. They operate from the event&#x2F;room reservation side of things, with academic optimization as an add-on.
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thebradbainover 5 years ago
Congrats you guys! I’ve been following Coursedog for a while, and if there’s anyone who I believe can crack this market, it’s you two. As someone who just spent the past summer creating software integrations with legacy learning management systems like Blackboard, Canvas, Moodle, and Sakai, I can’t emphasize enough the need for disruption in this space.<p>They’re a rocketship!
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bnjover 5 years ago
Really cool to be introduced to coursedog. It’s funny to hear your experience of higher ed software, because I work in a public high school and we have a very similar challenge re: catalog management and curriculum planning, but the landscape of solutions is nonexistent.<p>If anyone knows of a provider that would work with a high school on these points, we would be first in line.
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lettergramover 5 years ago
If you haven’t checked it out, I have a similar product for UIUC, WU, among others. Haven’t updated it in years, but is still highly used:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;easy-a.net" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;easy-a.net</a><p>Tells students the difficulty of their semester, estimates hours they will have to work, expected grades, etc.<p>Happy to discuss, feel free to reach out.
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watertrashover 5 years ago
This is a super interesting project. What are the 5 schools currently using cloud systems?
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jaremkoover 5 years ago
Ah, very cool (and relevant). I happen to work in lower &amp; upper schools helping build schedules and all the things that go along with that. I believe I came across your product in the Spring via Google.
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frakkingcylonsover 5 years ago
What kind of penetration do you have in the institutions that use your platform? i.e. Are they using it for scheduling all courses within the university, or only certain colleges, certain departments etc.
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kyawzazawover 5 years ago
been seeing your posting for interns since last semester. are you starting to hire interns now?<p>my college&#x27;s scheduling system is very painful to use.
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ishwarnover 5 years ago
This is so awesome. I’m really interested to hear how you progress, build out more solutions, etc.
mtea994over 5 years ago
how to reach you for working on the project
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TCR19over 5 years ago
Great example of taking a problem and turning it into an opportunity.
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