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Drink Poison and Smile: How I Arrived at My Position of Pro-Democracy

63 pointsby improvehkover 5 years ago

7 comments

hos234over 5 years ago
Good luck to protestors. Hard to see the reasons for China to compromise though.
Mathnerd314over 5 years ago
The author seems to have left off his name, but I assume the Chinese or HK government could easily obtain his name&#x2F;address from the domain registrar. So if the extradition bill was passed he might join the many people he lists in prison.<p>But the bill was declared &quot;dead&quot;, so I guess he&#x27;s probably OK besides the possibility of masked thugs.
Learyover 5 years ago
You should write this in Chinese so the Mainlanders could actually read it.
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Animatsover 5 years ago
Legislative bodies is in trouble. Britain seems to have just had a coup. Look at how Boris Johnson became Prime Minister, not by popular election but by vote of Conservative Party members only. And now he&#x27;s suspending Parliament.<p>The problems of the US Congress are well known. It used to run the country. Now it barely does anything.
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nudpiedoover 5 years ago
&gt; Fine you say, you may not care for some religious leaders, as they are such a tiny percentage of the population.<p>This is a huge difference between western and eastern thinking. Group rights vs individual rights. Here in western culture we typically tried to develop a culture on which each single individual rights should be respected above the group if the case was necessary whereas Asian societies traditionally have put groups (or families) above individual rights and wishes.<p>And for those reasons we had several wars against fascism, communism and other totalitarian ideologies. Currently in the west we also have lobbies which try to segregate population in smaller groups and lobby against others, or communities as they say in the USA. I guess this herd behaviour is just part of human being&#x27;s nature and this sort of events will be repeated forever.
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foucover 5 years ago
I was super confused by the initial &quot;A letter to our brothers and sisters just north of the border.&quot; until I figured out it was a Hong Kong writer speaking to mainland China residents.
askmikeover 5 years ago
I agree that the things described are very bad. But I do want to point that many western democratic governments do things that might be just as bad (are the Uyghur Muslims treated worse than immigrants in many western places like US &#x2F; EU &#x2F; AUS?).<p>Though I have to admit I&#x27;m not well informed on exactly what type of &quot;democracy&quot; they are after. If you get the majority of people to not care about what happens to a minority, it doesn&#x27;t really matter how a government is structured (when it comes to democracy we see see things like &quot;Tyranny of the masses&quot;).<p>EDIT: everyone disliked this comment but I think because I used the wrong examples. So I quickly want to clarify what I mean:<p>He wants a different political system (democratic) and his arguments are that the current one did many bad things. My point is that changing the political system doesn&#x27;t change the bad things he&#x27;s talking about. As we can clearly see in many democratic systems in the world.
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