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Ferroelectric RAM

38 pointsby curtisover 5 years ago

6 comments

leggomylibroover 5 years ago
It&#x27;s great stuff, but still low capacity and high cost in commercial chips. If you want to play with it, check out TI&#x27;s MSP430FRxxxx microcontrollers. They have FRAM instead of Flash.<p>Also, there are 8-pin FRAM chips with the same pinouts as generic QSPI Flash&#x2F;RAM&#x2F;etc chips which you can buy today.<p>Again, it&#x27;s still low-density and expensive, but that seems to be improving and it&#x27;s fun to make applications which can re-write nonvolatile data by word rather than by page.
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evancox100over 5 years ago
One of the benefits of FRAM is that you can put it through extreme radiation and still have it work afterwards. So you can put it in a medical instrument that undergoes gamma ray sterilization, and it will still not only work but also retain the data.
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mark-rover 5 years ago
Not too many days ago someone was complaining about how posts about promising new technology always attracts comments warning that lab results aren&#x27;t the same as commercial products: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=20753342" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=20753342</a>. I responded that countless times in the past promising technologies had passed by without leaving a mark. Ferroelectric RAM could be the poster child for that effect - it&#x27;s been around for decades but still hasn&#x27;t made an impact.
keithnzover 5 years ago
we make a lot of use of FRAM in our embedded systems. It&#x27;s great stuff. With huge amount of write cycles it simplifies the data structures you need to store compared to page based &#x2F; lowish write cycle memories.
jhackover 5 years ago
“FeRAM&#x27;s advantages over Flash include: lower power usage, faster write performance and a much greater maximum read&#x2F;write endurance (about 10^10 to 10^14 cycles).”<p>This sound impressive until you get to the part where reads are destructive, and reads heavily outweigh writes in most workloads. Sounds like a pretty significant disadvantage.
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LocalHover 5 years ago
Fun fact: Sonic 3 for Sega Megadrive&#x2F;Genesis used FeRAM as save RAM. Generally, a Ramtron FM1208S-200CC. I think a few other carts of theirs used it, I&#x27;ve seen 32X Virtua Racing carts with Ramtron FeRAM parts.