It seems like it's well past time for a 2nd referendum. And I don't buy this hogwash about undercutting democracy and the people having spoken.<p>If my partner and I decide together to buy a car, and then find out later that we can only get financing at 20%, then it is no way disingenuous to have another talk about whether we really need a new car. On the contrary, I would be <i>quite</i> peeved if my partner went ahead and blithely signed a 20% loan for a car without further discussion, and defended that decision by saying, "We already talked about this."
One thing I don't understand out of this entire process is, since it is very clear the British parliament will not allow the government to go with a no-deal, how much leverage will the Government even have in any negotiation? Since the EU knows that the UK has to have a deal, can't they get away with offering not the best deal possible, since there is no EU wide similar law binding the EU to stay away from no deal.<p>Obviously, no deal is bad for the UK and the EU too, but how can the UK Government negotiate with their hands tied?
This the funniest stuff I have seen in Parliament. The PM lost his first vote, his majority, control of parliament and now they’ve withdrawn the whip from 21 of their own MPs. All because of two political geniuses who decided to prorogue parliament. Brilliant. ORDER!
Both sides are now at a point where they feel like the other is trying to stage a coup.<p>The remainers believe it is a coup that the PM has suspended parliament seemingly in an effort to bring the country closer to a no-deal Brexit.<p>The leavers believe it is a coup that there is a bill with a very real chance of passing that would make leaving without a deal illegal, therefore leading closer to not leaving the EU at all.
Thanks to the demolition job performed by David Cameron, Theresa May, and finally by Boris Johnson, British society no longer believes in much of anything or takes anything seriously.
In reality, if the UK does not have a trade deal in place by the time it leaves the EU, it will still need to get one later and it will still contain the same requirements on respecting existing commitments to the the Irish Border. And this also happens to be a condition of getting a US trade deal through.<p>No Deal Brexit, is in fact, No Deal until utterly desperate for Any Deal.<p>The idea that the UK could just not have to ever agree to a trade deal with the EU is the purest of fantasies, and the idea that leaving first and kicking the can down the road will strengthen the UK's negotiating position is almost as delusional.
I wish my high school had covered parliamentary systems. So many things about it seem batshit insane. The government can expel MPs who vote against it? The prime Minister can seize power by suspending the entire parliament?
The people voted for it. Just give it to them. If the outcome is bad, that's just a lesson in consequences...for everyone. Hope they vote better the next time...if you feel that it was the wrong choice.<p>The amount of contempt being expressed, from many sides, for democratic process is disgusting.