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Which companies would you never work for, and why?

19 pointsby flancianover 5 years ago
Credit to codesushi42: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21065327

15 comments

jayneticsover 5 years ago
Google.<p>Consider:<p>- donations to climate deniers such as CEI<p>- work on totalitarian tools such as project dragonfly or PRISM<p>- sabotage of competitors, e.g. breaking search and YouTube on Firefox<p>- feigning investment to steal ideas<p>Of course, in big companies, bad stuff is bound to happen every now and then. I just think that the above can&#x27;t be explained away as isolated mishaps, because it happened (or is still happening) over long periods of time, involving many people (quite a few of which resigned as a consequence).<p>Similar criticism can obviously be leveled at the other big players, and I wouldn&#x27;t work for, say, Facebook either.<p>On the other hand, I wouldn&#x27;t expect, say, Microsoft, to develop a dystopian search engine for an authoritarian regime.<p>Surely, most people who are working at Google do so without contributing to any sinister purpose (unless you consider ads evil I guess). I just feel there are other companies with considerable impact where I wouldn&#x27;t have to worry as much about potential abuse of what I&#x27;m building.
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flancianover 5 years ago
To get this started: Palantir. I know the world, and myself, may change; but I choose to believe that I would never work for &quot;defense&quot; or the military-industrial complex.<p>It could become inconsistent as a position in the long term, as we might be headed towards a future in which most leading IT companies collaborate with the military-industrial complex via contracts in some way or other. Hopefully not, though, and until then I&#x27;ll refrain from working for companies that are explicitly in that space.
lukaszkupsover 5 years ago
Pornhub.<p>Why? And what do you think I would say to my family - that I code using PHP &amp; jQuery? ;)
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comprevover 5 years ago
Any company which makes money out of others misfortune - this includes gambling, military&#x2F;defense, finance, etc.<p>I want to look back on my career and say I made a POSITIVE impact on the world somehow.
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johnmarcusover 5 years ago
Figure Eight (formally Crowdflower). They hire people and then lay them off 6 months later, on a regular basis. They have tons of burried negative reviews on glass door, but since they pay Glass Door, it&#x27;s hard to find them or even get them publishrd. They also have big military contracts doing some of the AI bigger shops won&#x27;t do because of the bad press.
jlengrandover 5 years ago
I never sign if a company wants to own the IP of what I do in my free time, and require supervision of what I talk &#x2F; write about.
jackcodesover 5 years ago
I’ve just got one; EqualExperts. They’re a bit like thought works in the UK. I went to them when I needed work and was told I didn’t have enough years experience in the industry.<p>The issue with this was that someone I used to work with, who was a little older, had significantly less. He’d moved from being a junior developer, and not a particularly good one, to being paid a decent amount more with a fast track interview experience.<p>I wasn’t as strong of a developer as I am now and I’m happy to admit that, but I asked them if they were willing to give me the technical test anyway and use that to judge. Nope. I was too inexperienced because I didn’t have 8 or more years as a developer.<p>EqualExperts, you can permanently fuck off from now on.
bjourneover 5 years ago
I&#x27;d never say never. If the choice is between working for a bad company or starving and becoming homeless I&#x27;d choose the former. Companies I avoid working for include casino and online gambling sites and companies in the fossil fuel industry.
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eb0laover 5 years ago
Tobacco, etc. Because life is too short to think you&#x27;re helping people become sick.
tryitnowover 5 years ago
It might be interesting to split this questions into two:<p>(1) Which companies would you never work for due to ethical reasons<p>(2) Which companies would you never work for due for non-ethical reasons (e.g. poor leadership, bad work&#x2F;life balance, dying industry, etc).<p>It seems like most people are answering (1), which is cool, but I&#x27;m also curious about (2).
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CM30over 5 years ago
Well, no specifics, but any company responsible for creating malware, or selling software to totalitarian regimes for enforcing unjust laws against the public would be places I&#x27;d never work for.<p>Probably any operating in the tobacco industry too, though other &#x27;vices&#x27; wouldn&#x27;t be off the list there.
CameronBarreover 5 years ago
No company at all, I&#x27;m determined to make it on my own like the contrarian I am!
crustaceanover 5 years ago
I avoid any company that has forced arbitration as a condition of employment
SamReidHughesover 5 years ago
Y Combinator, because they fund(ed) drug dealers.
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TurboHaskalover 5 years ago
Anything with post-its on the wall.